First TPW

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First TPW

Postby noname4670 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:06 am

hi guys i am getting ready to try my first tpw next week any advice or tips would be greatly appreciated in this area as i am new to this

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Re: First TPW

Postby Bushy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:09 am

Apply your handbrake when parking on a hill.
Just follow the recipe as stated dude. Don't expect it to clear like a turbo and good gunja will follow :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: First TPW

Postby noname4670 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:17 am

thanks mate looking forward to it i need to get away from this HBS Shit it is costing me too much $$$$ and if i can do it cheaper and it tastes better then i am all for it
i think i worked out that if i do the TPW wecipe the final product cost me some thing like $3 a Litre
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Re: First TPW

Postby Dominator » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:38 am

Be good to your mother.

Making the wash is a piece of cake. Once it has finished fermenting, leave it sit for a week or two to clear. The longer you leave it to clear the better your neutral will be.
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Re: First TPW

Postby Petulance » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:14 pm

Don't swing your privates in front of a girls school.

I've run a couple of TPWs as my first attempts. The product does have a burn to it... I like that. I tried using activated carbon on a few litres. That removed the taste and the burn, but left me with a rather insipid tasting product (great for use as a base for after-distillation flavouring and macerations, but not much for drinking)

Personally, I'm impressed with the final "burny" product. It's nice to sip on its own. Not so nice with coke. And it's cheap as chips... actually cheaper than that. $3.00 a litre is about what it's cost me. Can't complain about that!
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Re: First TPW

Postby jasonc2861 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:23 pm

Always eat your greens.
You will get a bit less with TPW'ya,but it will be unfiltered smooth goodness!!and cheeper to boot! :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: First TPW

Postby Andy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 12:36 pm

don't eat curry the day before going on an air plane flight or long bus ride.

since you are using an air still I would definitely leave it a while to clear- a few weeks until there is thick red mixture at the bottom of the fermenter and the majority of the mixture has a very, very slight pink tinge
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First TPW

Postby BackyardBrewer » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:46 pm

Petulance wrote:I've run a couple of TPWs as my first attempts. The product does have a burn to it... I like that. I tried using activated carbon on a few litres. That removed the taste and the burn, but left me with a rather insipid tasting product (great for use as a base for after-distillation flavouring and macerations, but not much for drinking)

Personally, I'm impressed with the final "burny" product. It's nice to sip on its own.


Can I suggest your cuts aren't tough enough or you're mixing it to more than 40% if you find it "burny".

I've never filtered a TPW - it's one of the reasons the recipe is so popular. If done right and cut well it's a very smooth neutral that shouldn't be burny.

So how brutal are your cuts? A little headsy maybe?
;-)
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Re: First TPW

Postby Dominator » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:09 pm

Would racking a TPW into a secondary fermenter help it clear any faster?
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Re: First TPW

Postby Yummyrum » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:24 pm

Dominator wrote:Would racking a TPW into a secondary fermenter help it clear any faster?


Not to sure but I would guess probably not because although you are decanting off the clearer stuff ,you would be stirring it up and disturbing the natural sinking of particles .IE those particles which were almost at the bottom of the wash would be all mixed up and have to settle again.

Here's my first TPW wash .It cleared naturally .This was a month after I started it so perhaps 2-3 weeks to clear
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Re: First TPW

Postby SBB » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:59 pm

If you have the still to do it , strip your wash first would be my tip.
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Re: First TPW

Postby Petulance » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:17 pm

I toss the first 600ml in a 50 litre wash. That should be enough. Average 87% on the rest, which I water down to 45% using spring water.

It has a burn alright, but not to bad. Maybe it's my method ... I'm using a 4 plate 4 inch bubbler.
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First TPW

Postby BackyardBrewer » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:23 pm

Ahh at 87% I'm not surprised! So no packed section? Yep, you'd get a fair bit of carryover at 87% - that means 13% of the liquid is ummm "something else" from the wash so no wonder there's a bite:-)
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Re: First TPW

Postby MacStill » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:25 pm

SBB wrote:If you have the still to do it , strip your wash first would be my tip.


Yeah pretty much what I'd say too :handgestures-thumbupleft:

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Postby noname4670 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:06 pm

ok guys i have gone and bought all of the stuff i need for my first TPW looking forward to starting it next week just have to wait for my last ever turbo to ferment out and then i can start on my TPW while i distill my turbo cant wait just buying the ingredients alone has already saved me at least $12 on what i would usually spend at the BHBS

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Re: First TPW

Postby QLD.Andy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:18 pm

Tim, if your running this through an air still its going to come out tasting like watered down tomato soup, I know cos I did it
You will need to run it 2 or 3 times before it comes out clean.
So, run as you normally would collecting everything into one big vessel, water down to 30% and run it again, if your happy thats fine but I would run it a third time.
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Now we wait

Postby noname4670 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:56 pm

wooo hoo guys i have just put down my first TPW

14 L of water
4kg of sugar
80 grams of yeast
1/4 tspoon of citric acid

Now we wait LOL

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Re: First TPW

Postby znipa-x » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:47 pm

right there with ya with a TPW, though I did the tried and proven 25L wash, only after I put it into the fermenter did I realise the lid didn't have a seal, so I let it go for a week until my turbo had finished in the other fermenter, cleared and moved that to a storage drum and moved the TPW to the "good" fermenter so I could "watch" the airlock and see how well it works, stirred the whole lot up again in the process and it's working away nicely without extra heat which it probably should have. Also I think due to ferment time I'm going to have to have two or three going at once at various stages cos I can't wait weeks for the TPW to clear :roll:
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Re: Now we wait

Postby Yummyrum » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:54 pm

noname4670 wrote:wooo hoo guys i have just put down my first TPW

14 L of water
4kg of sugar
80 grams of yeast
1/4 tspoon of citric acid

Now we wait LOL

Tim


Hey Tim ,you forgot something
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Re: Now we wait

Postby Sam. » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:55 pm

Yummyrum wrote:
noname4670 wrote:wooo hoo guys i have just put down my first TPW

14 L of water
4kg of sugar
80 grams of yeast
1/4 tspoon of citric acid

Now we wait LOL

Tim


Hey Tim ,you forgot something


:laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:
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