whats the best bang for your buck

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whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Aussiedownunder01 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:36 pm

As above looking at larger washes bird watchers sugar wash or tomato paste wash
Ideas please
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Redux » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:41 pm

im no expert but tpw seems popularly quoted as being best value.....

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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Andy » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:42 pm

think it would be 6 in one half a dozen in the other
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Sam. » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:46 pm

Is quality a factor or purely price?
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Zak Griffin » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:27 pm

Are they not the same thing?
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby spit'n'shine » Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:33 pm

Tpw for neutral, Ujsm for flavoured IMO. :smile:
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby sp0rk » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:36 pm

Zak Griffin wrote:Are they not the same thing?

Yeah, the way I read it, bird watchers just leaves out the epsom salts
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby huggy_b » Wed Aug 27, 2014 6:54 pm

I can get a 200L weetbix or TPW wash done for about $50 in consumables including yeast.
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Aussiedownunder01 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:31 pm

Thanks everybody for the replies
Na its not cost its just I wount have extra heating for this one
And I don't care how long it takes
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby crow » Wed Aug 27, 2014 7:34 pm

sp0rk wrote:
Zak Griffin wrote:Are they not the same thing?

Yeah, the way I read it, bird watchers just leaves out the epsom salts

Birdwatchers has a bit more sugar, TPW 25 ltrs=5 kg, BWSW 25 ltrs+5.625
Question: has the TPW recipe been revised at some point? I would have sworn it was 25 ltrs of water to 4 kg of sugar (making around 28 or ltrs of wash :? , fuck knows maybe someone just advised me to do it that way and so always have
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Sam. » Wed Aug 27, 2014 8:00 pm

crow wrote:Question: has the TPW recipe been revised at some point? I would have sworn it was 25 ltrs of water to 4 kg of sugar (making around 28 or ltrs of wash :? , fuck knows maybe someone just advised me to do it that way and so always have


Nah I have always known it as 5kg per 25L is about the max you want to go :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Aussiedownunder01 wrote:Thanks everybody for the replies
Na its not cost its just I wount have extra heating for this one
And I don't care how long it takes


Well that's completely different to the original question, why don't you get some EC1118 yeast then for it? Will ferment at a lot lower temp without heating ;-)
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Andy » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:04 pm

yeah EC1118 is happy at lower temps. could look at wineos wash, basically replace tomato paste with DAP. from memory EC1118 has a bit more of a desire for nitrogen source than bakers yeast.

but in terms for bang for your buck the lowans bakers yeast has an alcohol tolerance of 16%, so could make a 14% wash quite happy. so 6kg of sugar in 25L, (25.5kg of sugar per 100L wash) if you really push it at 15%
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby MacStill » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:06 pm

whats the best bang for your buck


There was this place in Fyshwick called A touch of class, not sure they're still there tho :think:
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Sam. » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:22 pm

MacStill wrote:
whats the best bang for your buck


There was this place in Fyshwick called A touch of class, not sure they're still there tho :think:


They don't sell fireworks there anymore... Oh. :whistle:
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Urrazeb » Wed Aug 27, 2014 11:46 pm

As stated tpw/birdwatchers for a passable neutral. Weetbix is relatively cheap for a great vodka, ujsm for a nice sourmash :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Other than that its just a matter of experimenting, I'm sure you could put down a wposw for fuck all but the balance lies with quality vs monetary input- what your willing to put in to what you want to get out.

When you start the cost saving you can really throw down a wash for next to nothing.. sugar is the biggest cost, yeast can be extended by using a starter or even excluded by open top fermenting, you can also use stuff you already have on the shelf of the pantry or even freezer but all this does come at a cost and usually that cost is quality.

Tried and Proven are not only just tried and proven but also cost effective recipes, hence their popularity :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Aussiedownunder01 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:48 am

MacStill wrote:
whats the best bang for your buck


There was this place in Fyshwick called A touch of class, not sure they're still there tho :think:
Yep been there they said they used to know you :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:
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Re: whats the best bang for your buck

Postby Aussiedownunder01 » Thu Aug 28, 2014 6:57 am

I just wanted to try out that big fermenter and if it fucks up no great loss
So I recon sugar wash bubbler the first lot any if good do the rest if not strip it then do a spirit run
Or something like that
Once I built my still and got it up and running I seem to have lost interest [short attention span ]
So one run every 12 to 18 months will do
Gone onto other things now like pellet cooking low and slow
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