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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:24 pm

Drinking some gen 2-3 burbon been on new oak for 5weeks cant tell diff between it and traditionally mashed :happy-partydance:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby dans.brew » Fri Sep 25, 2020 9:31 pm

bluc wrote:Drinking some gen 2-3 burbon been on new oak for 5weeks cant tell diff between it and traditionally mashed :happy-partydance:

I had a barley and rye ag whiskey earlier and im thinkin exactly the same.. if i did blind tasting im sure you wouldn't pick it..
Just put 20kg of milled unmalted oats in the fermenter with 60ltrs of hot water to sit for a while. Will pitch some angel when it gets back to 30 deg.
Brew room smells very nice atm. :dance:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby rash » Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:24 pm

RC Al wrote:yep, same as any yeast :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Awesome, thanks mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby Teddysad » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:01 pm

Great to see how this has taken off from my original experiments and trials last year.

Seems like most are liking the process.

I am not saying it is the only was ( I still do some with Hi Temp liquid enzymes) but is is another way.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby dans.brew » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:07 pm

Teddysad wrote:Great to see how this has taken off from my original experiments.

Seems like most are liking the process

Thanks for getting the ball rolling mate!
Starting to get quite a few different spirits now using this stuff and they all taste great.
Certainly cut down on the time spent doing mashes compared to the traditional way. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:32 pm

:text-+1: yea thanks yor the heads up on this teddysad :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby mattyb » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:20 am

So I have a 25kg bag of Amber malt barley. Have a 100l boiler and wanting to Do a wash with the angel. I will milk it so what are people thinking as far as amount of water to add to the 25kg? Am thinking 100 litres and be left with about 80 to run through the bubbler
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Re: Mash not required

Postby wynnum1 » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:02 am

Amber malt barley. could you just mash .
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:07 am

Yea 100l will work i would try get 90l back out of it though..
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Re: Mash not required

Postby mattyb » Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:15 am

wynnum1 wrote:Amber malt barley. could you just mash .


Possibly. I have a 100l esky and some nice M1 yeast but haven’t done a straight mash before so was thinking if I just put the angel yeast in and the Taste isn’t much different then it’s a hell of a lot easier
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Re: Mash not required

Postby WhiskeySour » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:03 am

Ordered a bag of angel this morning. Expected delivery time of Dec 7 - Jan 28.....!! :angry-banghead:
Let's hope Santa picks it up on his way through
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Re: Mash not required

Postby dans.brew » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:02 pm

WhiskeySour wrote:Ordered a bag of angel this morning. Expected delivery time of Dec 7 - Jan 28.....!! :angry-banghead:
Let's hope Santa picks it up on his way through

Yeah, once you get a packet in the mail you just about need to order another straight up so it arrives before you run out. :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby dans.brew » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:17 pm

My oat wash finished so i syphoned off all the wash down to the grainbed, which was only about 20 odd liters. As oats are so light in weight 20kgs in an 80ltr wash takes up a lot of room.
I ended up using my esky and false bottom to drain the rest out.
Got around 60ltrs of wash out without sqeezing and then did a sparge to get the rest out hopefully, which took my total to 85ltrs.
As oats have a lot of husk i was really hoping to flush out any trapped wash which sometimes gets left behind.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 09, 2020 12:43 pm

Be interested to hear volume of final spirit after sparging. Have heard couple people suggest it but yet to hear any results :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Mash not required

Postby WhiskeySour » Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:16 pm

dans.brew wrote:
WhiskeySour wrote:Ordered a bag of angel this morning. Expected delivery time of Dec 7 - Jan 28.....!! :angry-banghead:
Let's hope Santa picks it up on his way through

Yeah, once you get a packet in the mail you just about need to order another straight up so it arrives before you run out. :laughing-rolling:



Yea after I got the confirm button I though maybe I should have ordered x2. Ah well
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Re: Mash not required

Postby chipboy » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:43 pm

You should be fine, mine came a week or two before the earliest date in their estimation.
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Re: Mash not required

Postby RuddyCrazy » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:08 pm

I've been reading through this whole thread and the one on the other forum where I found a direct link so bought 2 off 500g bricks, now with my last 2 attempts at corn this yeast will be my goto stuff and once I do a small trial or 2 summer should be here and I'll finally get to use that 200 litre olive drum I cleaned every year but never got around to using it.

I figure with a 200 litre ferment 4 strip runs in my 4" pot still will give me more than enough to do a spirit run in the pot which should bring the whole flavour.

Cheers Bryan
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Re: Mash not required

Postby bluc » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:10 pm

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Re: Mash not required

Postby Wellsy » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:11 pm

:text-+1:
just did exactly the same thing Bryan and will be grabbing a 200 lt barrell in a couple of weeks, it is always good to have a plan :)
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Re: Mash not required

Postby RuddyCrazy » Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:22 pm

Wellsy wrote::text-+1:
just did exactly the same thing Bryan and will be grabbing a 200 lt barrell in a couple of weeks, it is always good to have a plan :)


Cool mate, now I was thinking of the George Washington recipe for the first one so we will have to :violence-smack: heads together :laughing-rolling: and come up with the amount of grain to suit the 200 litre ferment.

I reckon I will need to grab a barrel or 3 so time to make a few dozen dragonflies for the funds. Just a couple of knives and a few spots with the mig and $25 for 10 minutes work :laughing-rolling:

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