whisky all grain

[bluc]

Lot 3
single malt
3l/kg mash thickness
14kg barret burston pale ale
85c transferred strike water to mash tun
Dumped water into tun temp now 67 8.30am
Added grain gave it a good stir temp now 63. Lid on. After 2 hours 10.30am gave it a stir took gravity reading 1.078. 12.30pm gravity 1.080. 1.00pm gravity 1.081. 1.15pm gravity 1.081 started to sparge. Sparge temp 63.5 18.5l sparge water used stopped sparge 1.041 Final volume 45l at 1.060. 61% efficiency.
went thinner mash and my efficiency got worse.. :crying-blue:

[bluc]

Kept 2.5l at 55% no water used to proof it.. It was a small and low abv run..Not a completely terrible yield though :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[bluc]

The above yield is from lot 2.

[EziTasting]

Kept 2.5l at 55% no water used to proof it.. It was a small and low abv run..Not a completely terrible yield though :handgestures-thumbupleft:

That’s with a pot still, yer!?!

[bluc]

Yea. Bubbler in planning stage..

[bluc]

So any ideas why a thin mash would be less effecient then a thick one.. what am I missing?

[bayshine]

So any ideas why a thin mash would be less effecient then a thick one.. what am I missing?

If it’s all grain, it will have less sugars I’d recon :-B

[ThePaterPiper]

Bluc, I’m really new to this, so don’t have a full understanding of the mash process, but does the amount of water used in the sparge have any affect on the efficiency result? Obviously it makes a huge difference to the sg, but I can’t remember what the factors taken into account are.

[bluc]

It would but only if excessive water was used i dumped in 18.5l and it drained dry bang on 45l final volume i cant have watered it down not possible..my gravity in the tun is not going high enough for some reason.. ~x(

[bluc]

Only thing when i got 67% effeciency i started mashing at 64. This time i started at 63..

[ThePaterPiper]

Maybe that’s it. We mashed at 66°

[wynnum1]

Bluc, I’m really new to this, so don’t have a full understanding of the mash process, but does the amount of water used in the sparge have any affect on the efficiency result? Obviously it makes a huge difference to the sg, but I can’t remember what the factors taken into account are.

The more water used is going to change starting gravity dilution if you where making beer the water can be boiled off to increase starting gravity but you do not do that with whisky mashing will work with less water but can get very thick harder to work with hard to measure temperature .

[Dyno]

Can’t u just boil the shit out of it, gelatinise the grain , bring it back down to 75 an add Alpha Amylase ? Strain it off then add Gluco Amylase with yr yeast pitch? Or is that cheating?

[bluc]

No idea.. but would like to get the hang of mashing it with its own enzyme first..

[Nino]

Can’t u just boil the shit out of it, gelatinise the grain , bring it back down to 75 an add Alpha Amylase ? Strain it off then add Gluco Amylase with yr yeast pitch? Or is that cheating?

From my understanding of grains if you were to do that then you would not need to use malted barley just plain barley would do as you would not be using the enzymes that are in the malt. Much like you would do for a corn based whiskey.

But then I could be wrong, I am only new at the all grain mashing too.

Regards,
Nino

[Dyno]

Can’t u just boil the shit out of it, gelatinise the grain , bring it back down to 75 an add Alpha Amylase ? Strain it off then add Gluco Amylase with yr yeast pitch? Or is that cheating?

From my understanding of grains if you were to do that then you would not need to use malted barley just plain barley would do as you would not be using the enzymes that are in the malt. Much like you would do for a corn based whiskey.

But then I could be wrong, I am only new at the all grain mashing too.

Regards,
Nino

Exactly right. But Blucs not doing it that way so I should just butt out :-D

[bluc]

Nope more than welcome here :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[markus]

What is the DP of barret burston?
Less or more than the pale ale of your last mash? :think:

[Nino]

Nope more than welcome here :handgestures-thumbupleft:

:text-+1: :)

If we can't discuss topics in the forum then what is the use of having a forum. We can't learn if there is no discussion :handgestures-thumbupleft: .

Regards,
Nino

[bluc]

What is the DP of barret burston?
Less or more than the pale ale of your last mash? :think:

All my pale ale is barret burston and has dp of 200 :handgestures-thumbupleft: