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Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:00 am
by coffe addict
I was like the guys above until I fitted a pump for recirculation. Now the grain bed gets sucked/packed at the bottom with wort/beer continually added to the top so I end up with 8 to 10 inches of wort on the top. This method seems to help make a cleaner wort with less puking.

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Mon May 28, 2018 9:15 am
by EziTasting
coffe addict wrote:I was like the guys above until I fitted a pump for recirculation. Now the grain bed gets sucked/packed at the bottom with wort/beer continually added to the top so I end up with 8 to 10 inches of wort on the top. This method seems to help make a cleaner wort with less puking.


sounding very interesting!

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:07 pm
by bluc
New toys
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Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:31 pm
by Doubleuj
Nice :music-deathmetal:

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 7:49 pm
by EziTasting
Daim!!

Jealous!

Whats the extra spool for?

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:04 pm
by bluc
Was originally gunna space out my pc but I rerouted water lines instead. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:42 pm
by bluc
Been a while time for a small update got my rims wired
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and butchered my old blue cooling water drum will be my new mash tun
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bit grubby but have it soaking with napisan will let it soak till next weekend, should be all good. I have a 50cm false bottom coming and my barbs for the rims should be here tomorrow. Hopefully a tripple batch next weekend :twisted: Also have a fitting coming for the drain on my new boiler happy days :dance:

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:45 pm
by bluc
Also wondering I normally do 4l to 1kg final volume. When recirculating what happens if I add the whole 4l per kg at start recirc till conversion complete then drain. Will I get as good as efficiency as if I mashed at 3l per kg then sparged with 1l per kg? :-B

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 2:26 pm
by EziTasting
oooooh good question!

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:14 pm
by RuddyCrazy
Yea good question, the way I was thinking with my setup when I can get the rest of the bits, why sparge when one can up the temp on the PID to sparge temp. Go 15kg's of grain to 45 litres of water works out to 3 litres per Kg of water. Aim for 1070 sg then just add some cold water after conversion in the fermenter to top it up to 55 litres as my fermenters are 60 litre jobbies.

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:48 pm
by EziTasting
Bryan1 wrote:Yea good question, the way I was thinking with my setup when I can get the rest of the bits, why sparge when one can up the temp on the PID to sparge temp. Go 15kg's of grain to 45 litres of water works out to 3 litres per Kg of water. Aim for 1070 sg then just add some cold water after conversion in the fermenter to top it up to 55 litres as my fermenters are 60 litre jobbies.


??PID?? Or do you mean RIMS?? Because was thinking that using a RIMS would negate the need for sparging...?

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:35 pm
by bluc
Pid is a temp controller ezi :handgestures-thumbupleft: i bought a cheap mk2 stc-300 which is not a pid but more a thermostat to get me started but will have brewpi controller before long.. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:40 pm
by bluc
The idea of sparging is to wash residuale sugar off the grain. Just dont know If constantly lautering(recirculating) and with sparge water added to lauter tun if sparging is needed.

Pretty sure Sparging is still needed because all the beer and whiskey guys do it, even with 3v systems...(its pretty hard to think up a new idea in brewing or distilling :D )

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:46 pm
by EziTasting
Roger

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:43 pm
by coffe addict
It's not needed but I think you'll find you'll leave a lot of good sugars behind, as the point of pit water in is to wash the last of the sugar out of the grain leaving mostly water absorbed into the grain.
Leaving the extra sugar behind might improve the piggyback whisky if you go that way!

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:53 pm
by bluc
Yea good point about the piggy back improving. I might try it see what I get.. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:45 pm
by bluc
False bottom and controller turned up today. Might be able to test with water tomorrow. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:59 pm
by coffe addict
Exciting times, I'll be interested to know your thoughts on how much difference being able to control the temp makes to conversion and flavour.

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:41 pm
by Peregian
Advice needed re "Mild Peat Smoked Malt.

Using Gladfield Distillers Malt and wondering what percentage of Mild Peat Smoked Malt would be best if total grain bill is between 6-7kg ?
I am usually heavy handed and over do things resulting in some disappointment regarding final taste.

Re: whisky all grain

PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:57 pm
by EziTasting
Peregian wrote:Advice needed re "Mild Peat Smoked Malt.

Using Gladfield Distillers Malt and wondering what percentage of Mild Peat Smoked Malt would be best if total grain bill is between 6-7kg ?
I am usually heavy handed and over do things resulting in some disappointment regarding final taste.


I don’t know yet myself, BUT have read others that make 100% smoker/Lester AG and blend it with a 100% base malt AG to taste... might be an option for you!?!? Once you know your ratio, you know what to make it in your grain bill...

Just a thought.