Grain storage and weevils

by **crow** » Mon May 06, 2013 8:19 pm

Ok here's the rub the BIL have bought grain and started a UJSM but his grain is full of weevils. Reckon before he's used all the grain it will be reduced to flour so does anyone know how to kill them without wrecking the grain

by **1 2many** » Mon May 06, 2013 8:38 pm

Good luck with that , have you got big volumes . worked in a baker for a while and the damn things are real hard to get rid of . :angry-banghead: Well we couldn't get rid of them even with the pest guys going over silo's and them being emptyed

by **crow** » Mon May 06, 2013 8:41 pm

:think: that doesn't sound promising

by **1 2many** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:16 pm

I was talking about 2 x 3.5 tone hoppers , but that was a bakery , but once you have them can be a pain , but if you don't mind the extra protein . :D

by **emptyglass** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:23 pm

If its only a small ammount, maybe suffocation? by sealing or with Co2?
Wouldn't get the larve, but might stop the critters.

Failing that, ferment it. Drown the buggers. Then cook them in a still.

by **grumpthehermit** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:24 pm

Only thing I can think of, put the grain in the freezer ...

Cheers
Grumpthehemit

by **Cane Toad** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:30 pm

Depends on how much you got Crow,small amounts,I think there is some stuff made from pyrethrum,you put the grain in a drum,pour the pyrethrum onto a rag then drop it I to the drum and seal up the lid,don't know if it leaves an off flavour,chooks and shit don't seem to mind,better than using the old faithful phostoxin :handgestures-thumbupleft: :handgestures-thumbupleft:

by **crow** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:43 pm

yeah I did think off dry ice but where the hell would you get that from :?

by **kelbygreen** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:48 pm

they wont hurt the wash ferment it before they make the efficiency shit. As said bulk grain is frozen for months, small amount not worth worrying. I have used grain with weavils the LHBS was selling some that had them and was frozen to kill them off for like $1.20 a kg and eff was the same as they got them early. There is worst things in hop plugs then weavels in grain :)) see squashed bettles and stuff in them :shifty:

by **emptyglass** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:50 pm

In the frozen food section of a BOC gasses supermarket.

http://www.whitepages.com.au/business-l ... es-1298351

by **crow** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:52 pm

great sept Adelaide is 200 kms from here :laughing-rolling:

by **emptyglass** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:55 pm

Best get your brother fementing then bud

Might have to do a swimming pool ferment.

by **crow** » Mon May 06, 2013 9:58 pm

The freezer idea sounds like a winner my sister wants hism to just take it back but if it was in all the grain well what it gets replaced with won't be any better I'd think

by **googe** » Mon May 06, 2013 10:01 pm

Wouldn't they just be speeding up the process?, ferment them?.

by **Dominator** » Mon May 06, 2013 10:08 pm

Party hire places and camping stores will sell dry ice, or if you have an ice supplier near you, they usually have it as well.

by **crow** » Mon May 06, 2013 10:09 pm

yeah he's doing a 130 ltr ferment now ,not sure my sister would let him turn the rain water tank into a fermenter (If ya reading this bud not suggesting ya under the thumb just say is all :handgestures-thumbupleft:

by **emptyglass** » Mon May 06, 2013 10:35 pm

Rain water tank would be the go!

Hell, its already full of water, probably good water.

Besides, who needs a shower? probably your sister

by **Lupus** » Mon May 06, 2013 11:11 pm

Crow,
What is the gain stored in currently?

One trick I have seen if the container is not too large and relatively air tight, is to put a glass with a lit candle just on top of the grain and close up. If the container is airtight the burning candle consumes the oxygen within before being extinguished. Not as good as flushing with carbon dioxide but worth a shot in a punch provided you are not sorting in a massive barrel?

by **bt1** » Tue May 07, 2013 7:17 am

Howdy,

Got this tip a few years back ....bakers use bay leaves in cracked grain storage...they don't get on...

bt1

by **kiwikeg** » Tue May 07, 2013 8:20 am

bt1 wrote:Howdy,

Got this tip a few years back ....bakers use bay leaves in cracked grain storage...they don't get on...

bt1

I have heard live aboard yachtoes swear by bayleaves too to slow the wevills down but I haven't tried it myself.