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Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon May 13, 2013 11:51 am
by Hill
Hey Perth guys I thought i would post up here for you, I run a AG brewday each month out at a HBS bayswater, the next one is the 8th of July, I run a full 20L AG brew from start to finish, starts about 9 through till about 1pm and we taste a the beer from the previous month. If you wanted to see an AG brew would be a good opportunity.

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 1:51 pm
by Ryno
Hey Hill, I will be in on that. Haven't done one of these in a while. :drool:

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Fri May 17, 2013 2:39 pm
by Brendan
What a great idea Hilly!

If I was over that way, I would be there for sure... :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 10:32 am
by Hill
If anyone is interested come down to brewshart this sat 9 till 10 to see a mash in place, the brew day goes till about 1-2pm

Let me know your a distiller and I can alter it a little for you.

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:24 pm
by Kimbo
I would like to go to that mate, depends on work ;-)

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 2:16 pm
by Ryno
Hill wrote:If anyone is interested come down to brew Shart this sat 9 till 10 to see a mash in place, the brew day goes till about 1-2pm

Let me know your a distiller and I can alter it a little for you.


Hi Hill, I cant make it this Saturday, but let me know if or when you do this next time. I will be in for sure :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:09 pm
by Kimbo
Hey Hilly, thanks for an informative Satdy morning mate.
It was well worth the visit :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 4:35 pm
by Hill
No worries Kimbo, how did the brew go?

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 8:52 pm
by Kimbo
good mate, Like we discussed, I added some sugar and got an SG of 1082 (prolly a little heavy on the sugar) ;-)

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:06 pm
by MacStill
I wanna build a mashing setup now, the 50L bruameister scares the shitter out of me :crying-blue:

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:34 pm
by Bushy
MacStill wrote:I wanna build a mashing setup now, the 50L bruameister scares the shitter out of me :crying-blue:

Well now theres one for the books. For makin what Mac ?

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:42 pm
by MacStill
Bushy wrote:
MacStill wrote:I wanna build a mashing setup now, the 50L bruameister scares the shitter out of me :crying-blue:

Well now theres one for the books. For makin what Mac ?


ERRR grog :wtf:

Nar, I got a beer fridge set up for a keg and wouldn't mind getting into a bit of brewing before the hot weather arrives.

Also interested in doing a few all grain brews for spirits if it's not too time consuming, but it seems like the only ready to buy systems are thousands of dollars & I simply cant justify that sort of dosh for something that might end up giving me the shits.....

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 9:54 pm
by Bushy
Faaaaark. I see what you mean about the Bruameister. Serious coin.
Hilly was talkin beer the other night and how his setup works. Already got a few kegs, just need to get off me arse.

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:02 pm
by MacStill
Bushy wrote:Faaaaark. I see what you mean about the Bruameister. Serious coin.
Hilly was talkin beer the other night and how his setup works. Already got a few kegs, just need to get off me arse.


Yep 3.5k for one isnt happening here, but it sounds better than having HERMS or RIMS... they sound more like STD's :laughing-rolling:

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:35 pm
by Sam.
You can do an easy set up for a lot less than that shit :handgestures-thumbupleft:

A few kegs and you can have a three tier system going easy as :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:38 pm
by crow
Don't bother with any 3.5 4 k sit mac I do it with a $2.5 dollar keg and I'll put my product against any trillon airs swill any day :handgestures-thumbupleft: I don't sparg but hell that wouldn't be to hard to built ifen ya was wanting to go that way
@ Kimbo how did ya end up with that conversion mate. Don't listen to the ex beer brewer to close as their methods fall a tad short of our aims ;-) (no offence meant to any AG brewers I was one once many dark moons ago)

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:38 pm
by Kimbo
Not only that, you get a 50L set up, you will be lucky to get 30L of beer.
Which is fine if you are only using corneys. But if you want to fill a 50L keg, either for beer or stilling then you will probably need an 80L setup ;-)

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:43 pm
by Kimbo
crow wrote:@ Kimbo how did ya end up with that conversion mate. Don't listen to the ex beer brewer to close as their methods fall a tad short of our aims ;-) (no offence meant to any AG brewers I was one once many dark moons ago)

Yeah good mate, like my PM, I was surprised at how quick it converted. I had already sparged by the time I saw your reply, so I put the wort back into the boiler, heated to 67deg for a while then did a boil off.
I look back now and realise I prolly didnt need to do it coz it had alredy passed the Iodine test 30 mins into the alpha? rest.

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 11:07 pm
by crow
cool bananas :handgestures-thumbupleft:
I might just write up some basic rests here, this is not all of them but probably as many as most will need
40-45 degrees centigrade = Beta Glucanase (breaks down a sticky glutinous mash) if you don't have it you don't need it
50-54' = Protease (breaks down protiens into nitrogen, amino acids ect that the yeast can use)
62-67 Beta amylase (coverts starch to maltrose and long chain sugars)
71-72 Alpha Amylase (converts long chain sugars into short chain fermentable sugars
Some will argue that the last rest is not really needed as this will slowly happen during the ferment and given enough time that is often correct or at least parly . As you jump to each rest you denature the enzyme from the previous rest and that is why some ppl don't like the A Amylase rest but if you have done the previous rest properly who give a flying fuck the jobs done. I tend to have a 45 min rest for Beta Amylase to make sure of the conversion before moving to to Alpha rest, an hour wouldn't be ridiculous :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Mashing 101

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 7:00 pm
by Hill
Good stuff kimbo, cant wait to taste the end product.