Why use flaked wheat?

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Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Matt S » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:10 pm

Hi guys,

I recent reciepe I saw on making vodka included both flaked and malted wheat. Why use both? If flaked wheat is not malted how would we be able to extract the sugar?

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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Matt S » Wed Jul 17, 2013 5:23 pm

Also, while I am asking this question, I am going to ask another.

When you can purchase 'cracked' grains from the brew store, are these milled enough to mash with or is it worth buying a mill and cracking them more?
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby vsboost » Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:11 pm

I think it has something to do with being able to extract the starches from rolled grains easier then cracked/milled grains, than the malt from the other grain will be able to convert the rolled grains into sugar.
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Kimbo » Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:29 pm

Matt S wrote:Also, while I am asking this question, I am going to ask another.

When you can purchase 'cracked' grains from the brew store, are these milled enough to mash with or is it worth buying a mill and cracking them more?

Yes, this is cracked correctly. You will only need a mill if you are buying your grains uncracked.
Matt S wrote:Hi guys,

I recent reciepe I saw on making vodka included both flaked and malted wheat. Why use both? If flaked wheat is not malted how would we be able to extract the sugar?

Cheers

they will be using the enzyme in the malted wheat to convert the starch in the flaked wheat, that way they dont need to use 100% malted grain.
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Matt S » Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:20 pm

Thanks guys, I appreciate the answer.

I am guesing flaked wheat would get very gloopy and sticky while and after mashing. What would you suggest is the best way to seperate the grain and spooge from the mash before placing it in the fermenter? I will be mashing in my 30L boiler.
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby bt1 » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:33 pm

Howdy,

I have a mill hand ...turned(careful avoidance of the obvious reference)

Simply put commercial Mills vary greatly in the crack they release.

Corn is a notable...bloody chucks 5mm in size are worth shit to a sugar head wash. I want bloody flavour not texture. I can't distil texture.

Your Berber carpet Bourbon is laid Sir, please remove your socks and enjoy with ice and a dash of Coke...

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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby kiwikeg » Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:40 pm

Go to a Hbs with a mill and get them to change the settings on their mill to suit your requirements....or
I have also used a coffee grinder works great but the next few pots of coffee are very interesting...
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Matt S » Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:05 pm

Appreciate the help fellas, as always. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Matt S » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:28 pm

I am going to do a wheat vodka shortly.

Plan is too utilise my Pure Distilling 30L boiler, after insulating it. Heat water up to correct temperature for mashing, turn element off (concealed element) and add grain and start mashing. I think it should hold its temperature okay if I insulate it.

What would the best way be to sparge the grain from the boiler? It has no false bottom of anything similar. Could I simply pour the mash into the fermenter with some muslin cloth on top of the fermenter catching all the grain, and then sparge the grain that is sitting on the muslin straight into the fermenter too?

I am thinking that would work, but have not read any mention of doing anything like that.

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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Kimbo » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:17 pm

Why not use a brew bag?
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Matt S » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:14 pm

AKA Muslin cloth? Hmm, no reason, just wondering what everyone thought of the idea I had in mind. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Sam. » Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:25 pm

Matt S wrote:AKA Muslin cloth? Hmm, no reason, just wondering what everyone thought of the idea I had in mind. :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Yeah you could, I think Kimbo was implying it would be easier to put the grain in a bag instead of trying to tip 30L out of an urn through a bag (that someone might have to hold).

There is a reason the beer brewers do it this way ;-)

Your way is fine, you will just need more hands and a second vessel :teasing-tease:
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Kimbo » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:01 am

sam_and_liv wrote:
Matt S wrote:AKA Muslin cloth? Hmm, no reason, just wondering what everyone thought of the idea I had in mind. :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Yeah you could, I think Kimbo was implying it would be easier to put the grain in a bag instead of trying to tip 30L out of an urn through a bag (that someone might have to hold).

Yep, thats exactly what I meant. ;-)
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Re: Why use flaked wheat?

Postby Matt S » Thu Jul 25, 2013 11:45 am

Cool :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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