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Infection

Postby bayshine » Wed Jan 15, 2014 10:43 am

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My first infection .. 100 lt of mountain moonshiners whiskey
Should I run it or chuck it
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Re: Infection

Postby Yummyrum » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:34 am

Run it...worst case its not fit for whiskey , run it again as a nutral.....never :scared-eek: waste booze
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Re: Infection

Postby Frothwizard » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:28 pm

That's amazing....how does that even happen???

I do all my washes in a similar barrel after I've put a few scoops of napisan w/ water in it and rolled it around for 2 minutes...never had issues like this.

I always figured the alcohol content after 3 days fermentation would be enough to kill anything after that.
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Re: Infection

Postby kiwikeg » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:35 pm

Strip it as soon as you can. But don't taste the wash first
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Re: Infection

Postby JayD » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:39 pm

Frothwizard wrote:That's amazing....how does that even happen???

I do all my washes in a similar barrel after I've put a few scoops of napisan w/ water in it and rolled it around for 2 minutes...never had issues like this.

I always figured the alcohol content after 3 days fermentation would be enough to kill anything after that.


remember it is only distillers beer, low alcohol... much higher proof alcohol provides protection from infection not low strenght distillers beer wash
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Re: Infection

Postby bayshine » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:23 pm

Ha ha had a taste n it was ok so in the still it goes
Will let u no how it goes
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Re: Infection

Postby Aussiedownunder01 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:30 pm

A bit like jugged [sounds like ] hare,, kill a hare bury it guts and all after 2 weeks dig it up and clean and cook it told theres nothing better :handgestures-thumbdown:
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Re: Infection

Postby Frothwizard » Wed Jan 15, 2014 2:43 pm

JayD wrote:
Frothwizard wrote:That's amazing....how does that even happen???

I do all my washes in a similar barrel after I've put a few scoops of napisan w/ water in it and rolled it around for 2 minutes...never had issues like this.

I always figured the alcohol content after 3 days fermentation would be enough to kill anything after that.


remember it is only distillers beer, low alcohol... much higher proof alcohol provides protection from infection not low strenght distillers beer wash


Yeah I know, but I figured anything over 7-8% would be enough...guess not.
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Re: Infection

Postby bluess57 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:34 pm

It's a "souring corn infection"...seen it when making sour corn starters
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Re: Infection

Postby bayshine » Wed Jan 15, 2014 5:32 pm

On jar number 6 now and would have to say it's the strangest run ever
Abc and output is all over the place
Plates are overloading then drying up then overloading again
It's all over the shop
Just had a shot with coke and she taste just dandy tho
Probly my best ever of the still funnily enough :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Infection

Postby bayshine » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:00 pm

bluess57 wrote:It's a "souring corn infection"...seen it when making sour corn starters

So would it be ok to use it for future generations do you think? :wtf:
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Re: Infection

Postby bluess57 » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:08 pm

bayshine wrote:
bluess57 wrote:It's a "souring corn infection"...seen it when making sour corn starters

So would it be ok to use it for future generations do you think? :wtf:

I never used the starters with that infection.
Me, I'd start afresh batch.
Over at modern distillers is where I posted about corn starters.
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Re: Infection

Postby OzKev » Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:39 pm

(talking from experience with beer and not distilling) It's an acetobacter infection. It wont kill you but the wash would taste like vinegar. I would not reuse it for future generations, and I would give all the brew gear it contacted a really good clean and sanatise. But I guess in this world a sour mash is good?

edit: Just found this for a read
http://beersmith.com/blog/2012/08/12/so ... ewed-beer/
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Re: Infection

Postby kiwikeg » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:25 am

Thanks Ozkev that link is a good read.
Now if it is acetobactor/vinegar infection the acetic acid comes over last 118c!! so don't go too deep into tails on your runs of this stuff.
There's some vinegar infection talk in this thread

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=3159&p=47924&hilit=vinegar+infection#p47924

I still don't know what caused the malt vinegar smell I got in the heads of my Bwko.
Turned into some good booze though.
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Re: Infection

Postby tipsy » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:40 am

Aussiedownunder01 wrote:A bit like jugged [sounds like ] hare,, kill a hare bury it guts and all after 2 weeks dig it up and clean and cook it told theres nothing better :handgestures-thumbdown:


I was told that you must bury the hare with a brick, wait 2 weeks dig it up, throw away the hare and eat the brick. :teasing-neener:
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Re: Infection

Postby Aussiedownunder01 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 10:21 am

tipsy wrote:
Aussiedownunder01 wrote:A bit like jugged [sounds like ] hare,, kill a hare bury it guts and all after 2 weeks dig it up and clean and cook it told theres nothing better :handgestures-thumbdown:


I was told that you must bury the hare with a brick, wait 2 weeks dig it up, throw away the hare and eat the brick. :teasing-neener:

That's where I have been going wrong thanks will try it
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Re: Infection

Postby Yummyrum » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:41 pm

So bayshine ...is it a keeper are will you have to re-distill it ?
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Re: Infection

Postby MacStill » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:55 pm

Lactic infection ?
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Re: Infection

Postby OzKev » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:05 pm

MacStill wrote:Lactic infection ?


Lactobacillus is more dotty/clumpy looking and not waxy like that.
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Re: Infection

Postby bayshine » Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:16 pm

Definitely vinegar infection :handgestures-thumbdown:
Only guna keep three jars out of the whole 100lt run
The backseat out of the boiler was fucken terrible, it smelled like puk/shit
And to top it of, I bagged all the grains up an binned em
And the garbo left me a sticker saying the bins to heavy :angry-banghead: ~x( :violence-smack:
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