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Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:02 am
by maheel
so i am going to have another go at all graining whiskey...
i got my new mill and was going to go 50 / 50 on some barley / malt
and i also have a 70L mash tun esky and manifold
so looking at double batches of 60L around 6-8%
anyone had a look at barley and this steam flaked stuff ?
i was thinking the steam flaked might be easy to work with (no milling / cooking)
http://berniesproduce.com/index.php?mai ... ucts_id=33but i dont really want something that will turn to mush and block the mash
also looking at
http://berniesproduce.com/index.php?mai ... ucts_id=31http://berniesproduce.com/index.php?mai ... ucts_id=30http://berniesproduce.com/index.php?mai ... ucts_id=29any thoughts on the stuff ?
thanks
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:06 pm
by R-sole
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:14 pm
by maheel
well looks like i wasted $13 on 20kg of barley then didn't i
it is also a lot harder to crack than normal malt, would need a powerful motor to mill heaps of it. :(
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:50 pm
by R-sole
It's a good flavour addition to ujsm style scotch washes, or you can use enzymes to convert it.
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 5:57 pm
by MacStill
I love what the barley adds to my UJSM, well ok..... mrs Mac loves it :lol:
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 6:10 pm
by maheel
i cracked some and did a micro mash on the stove at 66" C
half and half beer malt / barley (about 500g total) but i did not weigh it or measure anything
and hit 1030 ish .... it was pretty thin with lots of water
will crack some more and do a proper mash using some calcs to estimate a sg
got to get some iodine to test to see whats happening with the starches as well
thanks all
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 10, 2011 9:04 pm
by maheel
i did a rough re-weigh of the malt and barley of roughly what i had in the small tubs i threw in the pot
made a guess at a outcome of 4L
put the numbers into brewmate and with a 70% efficiency it give me a SG of 1030
that kind of tells me a got a reasonable conversion of the un-malted barley
based on beer malt only i would have only got 1.014
cracking it was a pain but after the weekend i will give it another go
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:54 am
by R-sole
There you go, not a waste of time at all 8-)
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:22 pm
by maheel
while running my pot today i did a bit more on my grian mill and it's now "working"
i cracked a bit of un-malted barley and some malted grain for a mini mash
will mash it for a few hours and then test if with iodine etc to see how conversion goes
chuck up some pics later
if it's all good then a 25L all grain mash is on later this week for a "single malt whiskey " :)
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:40 pm
by maheel
forgot the pics but based on the iodine tests i got full (or near full) conversion
now to get serious and grind up 10kg (5 of each) and make a higher SG mash for punkins yeast :)
the real question is to boil it or not after the mash to "sterilize" the wort
copper wort chiller might be the next project....
Re: Barley for all grain (adding to HB malt)
Posted:
Thu Aug 25, 2011 5:00 am
by R-sole
It's a good idea. i used to get a fair few infections with my all grain.