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Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 5:50 pm
by Arismac
G'day all,

I need to add a sweetner such as "Splenda" to my Ginger Beer and Cider recipes. Can the community advise the approximate amounts I should be using as say a percentage of total fermented wash or is it strictly a case of "suck it and see"?

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:29 pm
by TasSpirits
Try adding a unfermentable like lactose to your ferment. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:37 pm
by Arismac
Can you put a trade name and source to this, please?

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:49 pm
by Sam.
Any home brew shop should be able to supply you with Lactose :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:50 pm
by Arismac
Cheers, many thanks.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 6:51 pm
by bluc
Not always possible but i found stopping fermentation early by chilling it is the best way. Google unfermentable sugars lactose is one there is others and there is artificial sweetners also. You would prob have better luck on beer forums, search "back sweetning" :handgestures-thumbupleft: good luck.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 7:45 pm
by Arismac
Great thanks "bluc", I will certainly try that thanks.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2017 11:46 pm
by warramungas
Only problem with chilling to stop fermentation is it now needs to live in the fridge. You can't bottle it and store in your brew shed or it goes boom if the yeast get going again.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Tue Apr 11, 2017 10:27 am
by Arismac
A very good point. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 6:27 pm
by Arismac
I found myself in Fiona Stanley over Easter. What a way to spend the holidays.

When I returned to the wash it now has an SG of 0.900 and is still active. So I going to hold off from stilling until I get the two clear days without a change in the SG, that is unless the community has better ideas.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:00 am
by scythe
Are you sure it still actively fermenting amd not just fizzing from disolved CO2?

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:33 pm
by Sam.
Arismac wrote:I found myself in Fiona Stanley over Easter. What a way to spend the holidays.

When I returned to the wash it now has an SG of 0.900 and is still active. So I going to hold off from stilling until I get the two clear days without a change in the SG, that is unless the community has better ideas.


Had to google what Fiona Stanley was, turns out not as fun as I thought :laughing-rolling:

Hope your feeling better :handgestures-thumbupleft:

I think you will find it is .990 not .900, also yeah it could just be CO2 escaping not actually fermenting. Good idea to let it clear a bit before running :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:38 pm
by Arismac
Much better, thank you Sam. You are quite correct I certainly have not read the SG correctly. I am taking lessons in another thread.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 9:53 am
by the Doctor
To my experience the best artificial sweetener for use in distilled products is Leaf Stevia... to start with try bakers stevia or liquid stevia... we also sue liquid stevia instead of sugar syrups in our cocktails... Stevia is not fermentable.
Doc

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 1:19 pm
by Arismac
Many thanks, Doctor. I will try and source.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:15 pm
by Bushy
The other thing you can try is raw sugar instead of dextrose or white. Definitely sweetens up my ginger beer. That way I can add extra ginger and chilli and cinnamon and the kitchen sink. Fuckin love ginger beer. Gave up brewing the wifes cider though. Kept on letting it go too long and ends up dry as a nuns. Ralph at Brewers Delight does a nice one. Not cheap but still half the price of store bought. I wonder how raw sugar would go with a cider kit :think:

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 10:37 am
by Arismac
Good information, thanks Bushy. I will certainly give it a try.

Presume you are a near neighbor of mine?

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:13 pm
by Bushy
Won't be far away

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:44 pm
by Arismac
Ralph at Brewers Delight does a nice one. Not cheap but still half the price of store bought.


I gotta go see Ralph tomorrow as a I want a single malt for "her indoors", he is just around a couple of corners from me. I will check out his GB, thanks for the tip.

Re: Inert sweetners for Ginger Beer and Cider

PostPosted: Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:56 pm
by Bushy
I haven't tried his ginger beer. My recipe is Morgans kit. Process a couple of good size ginger roots and some chillis. Boil them for half hour with some powdered ginger and cinnamon. Pour the lot in with a kilo of raw and await the results. I did have to take the guts out of the syrup valve on my gb keg because the chilli kept blockin it up. And it never clears but far out man. Great drop. Especially when you been breaking rocks in the sun all day. As us alcoans do.