Foreshots cut on a plate still

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Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby Borneogoat » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:38 pm

I've got a new FSD Nuetralizer cleaned and ready for my first real run. I've also got an 80L batch of Odin's Rye Bread Whiskey ready for this weekend. My question is about the foreshots volume I should be discarding. It seems common, on the interwebs, that people discard 200ml for 5gal/21L on a pot still and discard 50-75ml for 5gal/21L on a reflux still. But I haven't found info for a plate still. I will be running 4x plates and no copper packing. Any advice? I could always cut conservative at 200ml per 5gal, but trying to learn the proper methods too!
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby Zak Griffin » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:35 pm

If it's not fores it's heads anyway... I just toss 250ml.
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby The Stig » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:47 pm

Same here, 250 - 300
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby Doubleuj » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:49 pm

:text-+1: then do your cuts properly and seperate the remainder of heads from hearts
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby Borneogoat » Tue Sep 05, 2017 4:53 pm

Sounds like the safe plan. But for the sake of clarity, you guys mean I should toss 250ml per 5gal/21L, not 250ml for my 80L batch. Correct?
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby Doubleuj » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:11 pm

As long as as you run it right and compress your fores, something like this, then 200-300ml is fine
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby The Stig » Tue Sep 05, 2017 5:54 pm

For clarity, I chuck the first 250 - 300 per run not per fermenter
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby hillzabilly » Tue Sep 05, 2017 6:09 pm

A plate still you have in full reflux at the start of a run ,the pot you cannot reflux at all,reflux is what compresses forshots and heads and tails and increases your ABV,so ifn ya follow Macs guide takeing the above mentioned amount you should be fine,your heads is not used anyway so when you add it to another run you get another lot out as well,this is why doing good cuts will allways be safer and result in a better product in my opinion,with experience it will be obviouse sometimes when you should take a bit more ,as the forshots carry that particular plasticky strong smell.cheers hillzabilly :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby Borneogoat » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:29 am

Thanks for info and reminding me about Mac's How Run a Plate the Easy Way post. I'm excited, is it Saturday yet?
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby Kenster » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:36 pm

Borneo, as Stig mentioned... if you have a thousand litres of wash it will not fit into your boiler. Each boiler run is treated as a separate process in terms of what fractions you produce and subsequently remove. So, you will have MANY separate runs from your original/completed wash... all of which are treated as a single run... some chucked/retained and combined for a rerun.
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby Sparrow » Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:47 pm

I do 500ml per 45 litre wash in my bubbler. I don't keep the early heads for anything so there's no point chucking them later.
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby warramungas » Thu Sep 07, 2017 11:14 am

Sparrow wrote:I do 500ml per 45 litre wash in my bubbler. I don't keep the early heads for anything so there's no point chucking them later.


Stick em in a big glass bottle clearly labeled as poison (yes I know probably not that poisonous but you don't want to accidently mix it with your good stock) Makes a GREAT cleaner. So my wife tells me. :laughing-rolling:
Also good for removing those pesky permanent marker stains on your bottles.
I keep a 2.5 liter lab bottle full under the sink in the laundry. Any extra when that's full just goes down the drain.
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Re: Foreshots cut on a plate still

Postby EziTasting » Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:33 am

We loose the first 300ml of any charge - what isn't foreshows is Heads mixed with foreshows and is not drinkable anyway!

I have read that the foreshows is mostly contained int he first 0.5% of the boiler charge volume (45L boiler charge = 225ml), so that seems consistent with what everyone is doing... so, apply the %age or use a standard volume, it doesn't seem to matter much...
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