Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

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Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby melb_andy » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:46 pm

Anybody know of any gin makers in Melbourne who would help in developing a gin recipe?
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby Professor Green » Tue Nov 27, 2018 7:50 pm

There's plenty of commercial gin distilleries in and around Melbourne mate, you'd be better of contacting one of them. This is a forum for hobbyists.

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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby melb_andy » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:30 pm

Hi Prof Green, I’m happy to work with experienced hobbyists as well.
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby The Stig » Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:50 pm

melb_andy wrote:Anybody know of any gin makers in Melbourne who would help in developing a gin recipe?

Can I ask why you want others to make it for you rather than you making it yourself ?
We don’t “produce” for others, it’s a hobby not a business
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby woodduck » Tue Nov 27, 2018 10:17 pm

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I don't support hobbyists distilling for others sorry mate that has bad news written all over it.
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby cheesepizza » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:51 pm

Best bet as stated is to contact a small craft distillery. If you have enough money to make it worth their while I'd say they would help
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby bluc » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:23 pm

Doc may be interested but he is up the road in texas..
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby The Stig » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:28 pm

He hasn’t logged in since he made his second post so I think he’s got the hint.
Maybe he will post on Gumtree :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby bluc » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:35 pm

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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby Lowie » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:48 pm

If you read his post, he wasn't asking for anyone to make it for him, he was asking for help to develop a recipe. Either way, there's plenty of recipes here to try...
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby The Stig » Wed Nov 28, 2018 7:51 pm

That’s correct, he doesn’t want to do it himself therefore he wants somebody to do it for him
Oh and the hint is in the subject heading “contract”
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby melb_andy » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:07 pm

Hi, thanks for all the comments.

The context for the request is that I am setting a distillery in the Phillipines but wanted to experiment on the recipe here in Melbourne. In particular I was looking to learn from others, hence the professional or hobbyists.

As ultimately I will be investing in equipment in the Phillipines I wanted to work with someone and their equipment in Melbourne.

The key is I don’t want someone to do this for me, rather as someone very new to this space I wanted to work with and learn from those more experienced.

Hope this clarifies. I will definitely reach out to some of the craft operations but if there are any other suggestions I am keen to hear.
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby PeterC » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:11 pm

If you are over in the West this looks like a bit of fun
https://www.margaretriver.com/stories-g ... education/
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby melb_andy » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:20 pm

Thanks, unfortunately I’m based in Melbourne but have tried the masterclass at Bass and Flinders.
While that’s a good start, it doesn’t give you a real chance to experiment properly.
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby The Stig » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:25 pm

Your only legal option is to find a craft distillery that is willing to work with you, probably at a cost.
And kudos to you for coming back and explaining your situation.
Why not invest a little and set yourself up in Melbourne ?
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby Doubleuj » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:56 pm

Hey melb-andy, I do applaud your enthusiasm but I have to ask, what’s your experience in distilling?
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby RC Al » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:52 pm

Can be done legally himself, just have to pay $20 a litre as a hobbyist..... might be restricted on boiler size though?
A 5l setup would be fine for recipe development (all I've got)
Not sure many places would be up to share their knowledge either
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby RC Al » Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:12 am

Had a look at their taxes on booze, a little convoluted, if you're making rum or similar from native plants, 18c per litre of 50%, half that if you put out under 100l a day (possibly to support the little guys/farmers?). If it's anything else and retails for more than $16ish /750ml then it's $8.80 /50%litre. , so 2/3 our tax rates unless it's rum...

Rum sounds like a better idea over there, barrels would be the biggest issue
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby db1979 » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:46 am

RC Al wrote:Can be done legally himself, just have to pay $20 a litre as a hobbyist..... might be restricted on boiler size though?
A 5l setup would be fine for recipe development (all I've got)
Not sure many places would be up to share their knowledge either


5L is legal only to distill water and essential oils. The licencing requirements for distillation of ethanol are far more involved that are really not viable for hobbyists. The real killer is the premises (can't be a residence) and the need to demonstrate security and safety at those premises. So if someone was to go down that path they'd need to commit to it completely (unless they just happen to own some spare warehouse/commercial property).

If melb_andy was going to legally distill in Australia it would only make sense to do so with serious upfront investment.
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Re: Contract gin recipe development in melbourne

Postby deryn » Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:11 am

Hey melb_andy, have a listen to episode 22 of Still Talking Podcast
https://stilltalkingpodcast.com/ep-22-an-interview-w-derv-and-sebastian-of-anther-spirits/
It's an interview with the owners of Anther Spirits, small batch gin producers who operate out of a place called The Craft & Co in Collingwood. From what I can tell, that place is exactly what you are looking for.
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