waterflow and temp

[MacStill]

TPW is the go to wash for refluxing :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[fizzydrink]

I'll certainly give it a go.
Cheers

Fd

[fizzydrink]

Sorry bit off topic.

I don't have anything brewing atm. But I do have a few litres of cut spirit that didn't turn out right.
Can I throw this in my still with some water and redistill?
I'm Guessing I can as this is what a second run is correct?


Cheers
Fd

[MacStill]

yes & yes :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Just make sure you dont burn your element out with a small run, tip the water in first until the element is well covered ;-)

[fizzydrink]

Thought so. But my luck is crap so thought I'd better check. Iol

Thanks
Fd

[fizzydrink]

well I've thrown a tpw in and was bubbling away in about 2 secs.
I've rigged a sort of gate valve in some hose. hell, I even bought a whole new garden hose.
also grabbed some jars from red dot to do cuts.
SO hopefully tommorow I can throw my old stuff in and get something decent.

cheers
fd

[bt1]

be good to hear if this fixes the beast.

can you let us know?

bt1

[fizzydrink]

well I must say, I am doing my spirit run now and everything is fucking shit. excuse the old french but I'm kinda pissed off. maybe I shouldn't have listened to Mac and got a 6 buck gate valve. I should have invested more. perhaps 7 bucks. because I sure as shit can't seem to get it to sit on 80c. 72 or 86 is what it wants.
I started at the recommended 500ml a minute but that soon went to 86. playing with it and I just camt get it right. ATM I have bout 400 mel of heads ATM and its just getting more.

jeez.

[MacStill]

Could it be that your focusing on water flow too much ?

Open the tap or valve and decrease flow slowly until your sitting at the right temp, the more reflux in the column the cooler it will run ;-)

[fizzydrink]

maybe. but I thought that was the idea with these ones. I know different stuff boils ATV different temps, but you had to regulate the flow to keep it around the 80. this also a spirit run so maybe temps will be all over.
anyway I'm just letting run at whatever and collecting what it gives. I'll run it again another day.

[crow]

whoa dude I think you are getting way to hung up on temps. They really don't matter a damn and are a bullshit way to run any still. The different compounds will boil of at different temps. The temp can't and won't rise until most of the lower boiling point compounds have boiled out, as each compound boils out the wash rises to the next compounds boiling point that is simply how all stills work. Trying to force the still to operate at a given temp can only resulting in smearing of cuts. Just run the still and do ya cuts the next day and it will be just dandy :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[fizzydrink]

I'm hearing you crow, I'm just keep thinking that the good stuff comes at 78-82 so that's what I need it coming out at. I'll see how my tpw goes

[emptyglass]

I had one of those little fellas, back when noah was a lad (well maybe not quite that long).
If I remember right, water flow was set at something like 400ml/min. And the kit included a plastic bucket to collect your hooch in- all of it less foreshots.
Keep your water flow constant, if your supply varies (someone flushes the dunny) the still will vary. Best shot is collect in small jars and make cuts later. Number the jars, and you could even take note of the temp when the jar is full. Use that info to help better judge future runs.
Sorry bud, nothing but practice will get it running right. Good side is, if you can crank a good product out of one of those stills, you'll be able to get a good drp out of any still.

[fizzydrink]

cheers empty

I'll guess I'll try that next time. I did find a manual online, and the rate is about 500ml
the gate valve did keep it constant at about that so I'll run with it next time, see what happens

does. different wash affect anything? I use Turbo, but the next one is my first tpw

thanks for the info.

fd

[crow]

yes quality , yet to hear one really good report on turbo yeasts , reports are especially bad from ppl who have done turbo washes and then changed to TPW or similar using bread yeast . I haven't used turbo yeast myself for the said reason

[emptyglass]

Jeez mate, I wish you had of mentioned that you were using turbo yeast in the begining.
Thats 90%of your problem with bad taste there, yes, I have used it, back when noah was young Does it smell like a sick bananna?

400ml/min, 500ml/min, take your pick, but make it stick. I still have the original instructions somewhere, but best I can say about them is keep the temp adjustment chart for handy's sake (plenty of online calc's that do the same thing), and use the rest to start the next fire you need, sorry if you found them online, you cant even use them for that.
Other than the flow rate, they tell you jack shit about making hooch. They say enough to get you in the shit, not out again.

Toss your first 75ml as fores, that much is right (I think they might say 50ml)

I found water flow was not "about" that, but "exactly" that. I even resorted to doing runs in the evening, so the family didn't use any mains water and stuff up my runs, but got sick of staying up till 3am.

And the plastic hose does your taste no favors. Cheers mate, I 'm sure you'll sort it.
You might find a way to hot it up a little but I never could.

[fizzydrink]

cheers EP. I'll keep it standard flow no matter what happens and see how I go.
I didn't think Turbo mattered sorry,

cheers
fd