Bubbler/plated still advantage?

[8 Mile Hillbilly]

I have been looking at copper porn lately and sure like the looks of the bubbler stills. What is the advantage of a bubbler still that you can not achieve with a similar sized Boka? :think:

[CHEROKEE]

I'm not familiar with Boka stills mate, but I love my six inch bubbler and evolving from a T-500 I couldn't be happier. (lots to keep learning) :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[bt1]

Howdy,

speed of off take, If its modular can vary spirit qualities, more points of control, gin or malt flavouring baskets can be used, easy to clean vs. pulling out packing, the glass bubbler weighs stuff all compared to a Boka, rock filtering section can be added quickly, be bout my main issues.

Having sworn never to use a Boka again (I've only got so many years of waiting left in me) speed is the main issue...followed by the flexibility for varying drinks.

bt1

[Smbjk]

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Hi 8 mile :greetings-waveyellow: pop over to the welcome centre and introduce ya self. Show us ya rig and what you like to drink :D p.s we like pics :handgestures-thumbupleft: :D

Click the link above to see a previous thread on bubble plate advantages

[SBB]

Its not a matter of one having an advantage over the other, they are two different tools for two different jobs. One makes flavoured spirits like whiskey or Rum, the other is best at making Vodka or neutral type spirits.

[Aussiedownunder01]

Speed boy speed did a tpw yesterday and got 9 litres 90% in 1 hr
5 plate 4 in bubbler and 500 packed section

[SBB]

I have to wonder why you would add the packed section to only achieve 90% abv, seems like a waste of time to me, you should have been able to pull higher than that just with the plates. TPW at 90% still has 10% of impurity in it. Why not go a bit slower and try for 96% and a really good product??

[Sam.]

I have to wonder why you would add the packed section to only achieve 90% abv, seems like a waste of time to me, you should have been able to pull higher than that just with the plates. TPW at 90% still has 10% of impurity in it. Why not go a bit slower and try for 96% and a really good product??

:text-+1: on a 4 inch rig I wouldn't be goin over 3 liters per hour but you should be pulling close to azeotrope

[MacStill]

Speed boy speed did a tpw yesterday and got 9 litres 90% in 1 hr
5 plate 4 in bubbler and 500 packed section

So mate you want to give us a bit of a heads up on how you're running this rig ?

I'm having a hard time with the figures you've quoted there :think:

[SBB]

1L every 6.6 mins, christ I battle to strip that fast.

[1 2many]

Come on Aussie come on come come on, come on aussie come on. :whistle:

[Aussiedownunder01]

Ok her we go first scroll down to see the beast just under 9 ft tall
80 litre boiler 2 +2500 watt elements 4 in copper tower
5 of macks perf plates soldered in 3/4 to 1/2 reducer for the down comer dropping 50mm to a j trap staggered from plate to plate
200 mm to first plate 150 mm between plates

shotty is 500 long with 7 [i think]3/8 tubes
rc is 100 long with 10 1/2 in tubes
Load boiler with 70 litres of tpw
2 elements for about 1 hr to get temp
then one of to let it reflux for 15 min
water full bore in rc for reflux, reflux temp is around 20 deg
after 15 min set reflux temp to 38 deg and hit it with the full 5000 watts
Things I have found first off without packed section with 2 elements column seemed to flood[site glasses were full ]
when I first packed the extension I just pushed the scrubbers in with the next that was when I got the fastest reading after that I tried tight packing the column then it went shitfaced parrot was reading all over from 92 down to 80
so then took all the ss scrubbers out and loose packed it again yesterdays run with 70 litres of turbo run
[ for a mate ]it gave 1+1/2 litres every 10 min that's 9 litres per hr
On many a day I start loading the boiler at 8=30 am and its all over and cleaned up by 11=30am
For the sceptics theres been 2 people seen this run so far

[Aussiedownunder01]

Just had a thought maybe its the ducked tape on the boiler that makes the difference :))

[Kimbo]

I recon if you just used the 1 element, yes your take off will be slower but your ABV will be 96%..... Pure Azeo
Your cuts will be a hell of a lot more definite and compressed :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[philthy]

Come on Aussie come on come come on, come on aussie come on. :whistle:

dont chime in cause others have 2bob, u may learn something off him 8-} bud

[1 2many]

Come on Aussie come on come come on, come on aussie come on. :whistle:

dont chime in cause others have 2bob, u may learn something off him 8-} bud

Nothing meant Filthy was trying to see the lighter side and your not wrong there is plenty to learn off Aussie. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[MacStill]

Speed boy speed did a tpw yesterday and got 9 litres 90% in 1 hr
5 plate 4 in bubbler and 500 packed section

so then took all the ss scrubbers out and loose packed it again yesterdays run with 70 litres of turbo run
[ for a mate ]it gave 1+1/2 litres every 10 min that's 9 litres per hr
On many a day I start loading the boiler at 8=30 am and its all over and cleaned up by 11=30am
For the sceptics theres been 2 people seen this run so far

I am sceptical for a few reasons, even more so now though ;-)

It sounds to me like your loading the plates then running it as a pot still, which I dont think is ideal because you wont be compressing tails at all.

I'm still struggling with the figures though 70L gives you 9 litres of 90% when I'm struggling to get 9 litres @ 90% from a 100L wash in a 6" rig with 4 plates running at around 5 litres per hour with 4800w, if I push much harder than this still becomes unbalanced and the ABV starts dropping making the tails cut much larger.

Cheers,

Sceptical Mac :-p

[philthy]

sounds like ya on a good thing there aussie :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[Aussiedownunder01]

Speed boy speed did a tpw yesterday and got 9 litres 90% in 1 hr
5 plate 4 in bubbler and 500 packed section

so then took all the ss scrubbers out and loose packed it again yesterdays run with 70 litres of turbo run
[ for a mate ]it gave 1+1/2 litres every 10 min that's 9 litres per hr
On many a day I start loading the boiler at 8=30 am and its all over and cleaned up by 11=30am
For the sceptics theres been 2 people seen this run so far

I am sceptical for a few reasons, even more so now though ;-)

It sounds to me like your loading the plates then running it as a pot still, which I dont think is ideal because you wont be compressing tails at all.

I'm still struggling with the figures though 70L gives you 9 litres of 90% when I'm struggling to get 9 litres @ 90% from a 100L wash in a 6" rig with 4 plates running at around 5 litres per hour with 4800w, if I push much harder than this still becomes unbalanced and the ABV starts dropping making the tails cut much larger.

Cheers,

Sceptical Mac :-p

Ok looked back over the thread and yes I fucked up the washes that give the 9 litres are not tpw they are turbo wash made with 16 kg sugar the tpw gives a rate of 1.5 litres every 10 min also I always add the tails from previous washes
also the 9 litres isent all hearts

[SBB]

Maybe I need to clarify the point i was trying to make, Aussie that still is obviously capable of producing very fine booze, why run it so hard that you end up with a second rate product, There is a huge taste difference between TPW at 90% and 95%, all it takes is a little more time.