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How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:47 pm
by emzy
hi everyone, just have a brief question RE safety topic.

I have a Brewcraft Reflux Still and the thermometer is held in the still head through a BLACK rubber bung. Is there an issue with toxins leeching out into my final product?

If so is there a safer rubber other than the black that i can use i.e red bungs that you can buy?

Or is there any other solution to modify ?

Thanks for your feedback

Andrew

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:53 pm
by Brendan
Again, hopefully someone else can help in more detail in regards to your particular still...

But I don't think any rubber is safe for our use mate...I think the one's you're talking about are the black/white/red ones that they use to bung in the top of scientific flasks (erlenmeyer flasks).

An alternate fix is to get some natural cork (not the 2 dollar shop stuff which is held together with toxic glue), and make your own little bung and drill a hole through (or push the thermometer through is it's sharp) for the thermometer... :think:

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 2:58 pm
by kiwikeg
I shave down used wine corks to replace any rubber bungs/thermometer ports etc, the rubber ones perish very quickly.
try and find wine corks that are made from one piece of cork. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:04 pm
by C2H6O
Whilst the crew were having a look over my contraption the other day someone noticed i had a rubber bung at the top of my column. I have a copper cap so the rubber bung only holds the thermometer, but it is likely that it does come in contact with a little steam. Blonde.chap suggested "a quick fix would be to wrap the rubber stopper in a few layers of plumbers tape (PTFE), which is good and inert".

Might help if you're after a quick fix..

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:19 pm
by emzy
Thanks for the fast replies, great suggestions i didnt even think of so greatly appreciated

See pic of my still head, pretty sure these suggestions will be just what i need

Thanks again

Andrew

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Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:32 pm
by kiwikeg
hmm you might want to also consider swapping that plastic output/collection tube for a piece of copper tubing.

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:40 pm
by Brendan
kiwikeg wrote:hmm you might want to also consider swapping that plastic output/collection tube for a piece of copper tubing.


Aren't they all for coolant water? I was assuming the product output was not visible in the picture...but you're more than likely right kiwi :?

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jun 02, 2013 4:06 pm
by emzy
Kiwikeg is right it is the out put tube.

Point take, will get onto that too.

Thanks for the feedback

Andrew

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:55 pm
by drunkmore
Interesting looking still. What is it made of? Is that two pot paint on it? Quite like the colour

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:29 am
by bt1
Howdy,

I doubt they would use rubber. I'd suggest is black PTE instead. no one would seriously be that dumb in a commercial area surely?

I've a very good 25lt Essencia CM I don't use any more that has a bung and can confirm it's not rubber but PTFE having checked with the maker.

bt1

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:32 am
by dogbreath vodka
Hey mate.
I started with one of those reflux stills, has a marble in it from memory.

The rubber taints the product as it breaks down, so yeah....not good.

Maybe a quick build of a 2" pot still.
It will be just as fast if not faster and will make a much nicer product.
Just a thought

DBV

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:13 pm
by Yummyrum
drunkmore wrote:Interesting looking still. What is it made of? Is that two pot paint on it? Quite like the colour

I've got one of these.They are made of copper.Its a metalic paint on it.Mine and at least six others I have seen are all a charcoal colour.Funny this one looks greenish but I like it.
Re the bung.Bt1 may very well be right that its teflon and not rubber.Mine is atleast six years old and shows no sign of deterioration.I never experienced any rubber taste (not that I would notice with turbos :laughing-rolling: )
I did notice the plastic from the output tube though.Although it may well be teflon bung, if I was to use this still again I would probably use a cork bung

Re: How Safe Are Rubber Bungs?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:50 pm
by db1979
My brother has the same still and he's lent it to me to modify, I was going to change the bung but I had the same line of thinking as bt1... It didn't really look like rubber, so I've left it in there. Who knows what plastic it is but the still is second hand, he bought it from a guy he used to work with who had it a number of years and the bung looks like it's almost brand new.