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Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:02 pm
by Urrazeb
For those considering cutting a shroud for their boilers... think it through, and once you have thought about it get someone else to look at it, and once they've looked at it get someone else.

I thought mine through, got someone else to look at it, I've done it before, fired it up and presto! it works

So I nip outside to check my coolant return as there is a slight kink in the hose, all good! ;)

Go back to the shed and smell rubber burning... hmm I thinks, wandering over to my boiler, I notice the gas hose is ON FIRE, so I turn to the 45kg gas bottle and start shutting it off, wouldn't ya know it my mate opened the valve AS MUCH AS HE FUCKING COULD, I just shut it off as the hose spat off the fitting and bacame a flamethrower, brushing my fuck knows what gen rum ferment.

Just be careful guys.. please be careful

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:06 pm
by dogbreath vodka
Go out and buy a Lottery ticket..... cause you're one lucky bugger. :scared-eek: :scared-eek: :scared-eek:


DBV

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:08 pm
by JayD
Glad you survived to tell the tale, this is a warning though, take heed...you might not be so lucky next time. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:18 pm
by MacStill
Fuck gas

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:20 pm
by Kimbo
JayD wrote:Glad you survived to tell the tale, this is a warning though, take heed...you might not be so lucky next time. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

:text-+1:
Thats why I have a 3/4" braided hose on my burner ;-)

Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:25 pm
by Dominator
MacStill wrote:Fuck gas


What he said.

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:31 pm
by Brendan
MacStill wrote:Fuck gas


:text-+1: Well said...too many extra dangers to worry about :naughty:

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:16 pm
by DevilsBugs
Buy a gas fuse, it cuts off if a leak is detected. Worth the bucks for a bit of insurance.
Bunnings and most Hardware places stock them.

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:21 pm
by Urrazeb
Boiler upgrade is on the cards after that. The noise, heat and lost energy are too much, and after this I am making the switch.

I happen to have a contact that can supply full element kits for a reasonable price ;)

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:24 pm
by RumFiend
Now would probably be a fitting time for all those using gas to (re)consider their fire safety plans.. you do have fire safety plans don't you? At least a fire extinguisher close by? Fire blanket perhaps?

You're keeping as much of the combustibles as possible away from the flame? i.e. you're not distilling in the same place that you bottle or store your hooch. Look around you, what other objects could catch on fire. Personal safety should never be skimped on or taken for granted - plus we all want to be able to savour our fine booze, not skull it in haste to mitigate the pain of third degree burns! :D

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:06 am
by tipsy
Urrazeb wrote: my mate opened the valve AS MUCH AS HE FUCKING COULD


I see people doing this all the time :violence-stickwhack:

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:24 am
by Camikaze
Don't leave it unattended!

Sod's Law says it's the best time for shit to go wrong. Right when you turn your back. Turn the fucker off if you have to.

If your mate opened the gas valve as much as he could, where were you to correct him of his errors?

It's your still, you should be the only one driving it. You should be the one taking the time to check/re-check everything before ignition.

Supervise very closely if your mate wants a crack at it. At the end of the day, it's your house he burns down with your still. Try explaining that!

PS: That gas hose wasn't connected with a jubilee clamp was it? :naughty:

Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:33 am
by Rumdrinker
Very lucky you caught it when you did, your day could have turned to shit in seconds.
I love the speed & adjustability of gas but no matter how safe you make it you just can't eliminate the dangers. Using an open flame is a constant ignition source for any mishaps & the gas is a potential fuel source when something goes wrong like it did with you here.
Electric is so much safer when set up correctly

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:56 pm
by forefold
In case not everyone knows......... A gas bottle only need to be cracked open half a turn no more. This is the first thing you learn as an apprentice working with gas of any type. If shit goes wrong you can shut the gas off very quickly. There is no need to open it any further.

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 4:01 pm
by cdbrown
So was the hose touching the hot shroud, or did the shroud cause the flames to start licking at the hose?

Glad I got the braided hose.

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:12 pm
by DrunkASAskunk
Camikaze wrote:Don't leave it unattended!

Sod's Law says it's the best time for shit to go wrong. Right when you turn your back. Turn the fucker off if you have to.

If your mate opened the gas valve as much as he could, where were you to correct him of his errors?

It's your still, you should be the only one driving it. You should be the one taking the time to check/re-check everything before ignition.

Supervise very closely if your mate wants a crack at it. At the end of the day, it's your house he burns down with your still. Try explaining that!

PS: That gas hose wasn't connected with a jubilee clamp was it? :naughty:



:handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:00 pm
by crow
Rumdrinker wrote:Very lucky you caught it when you did, your day could have turned to shit in seconds.
I love the speed & adjustability of gas but no matter how safe you make it you just can't eliminate the dangers. Using an open flame is a constant ignition source for any mishaps & the gas is a potential fuel source when something goes wrong like it did with you here.
Electric is so much safer when set up correctly

I beg to differ here , you are stating this as if electricity is risk free and not one thing could go wrong "bullshit" . What ever you use some common sense needs to be employed , having a rubber gas hose connected where it can get hot and catch fire is not "common sense" not even close to it. In fact it is exactly comparable to bodgy element wiring

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:04 pm
by bt1
Yeh +1 Crow,

surely gas feed in our game should have always been braided SS hose and well away from heat source....very simple consideration really.

bt1

Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:11 pm
by Rumdrinker
crow wrote:
Rumdrinker wrote:Very lucky you caught it when you did, your day could have turned to shit in seconds.
I love the speed & adjustability of gas but no matter how safe you make it you just can't eliminate the dangers. Using an open flame is a constant ignition source for any mishaps & the gas is a potential fuel source when something goes wrong like it did with you here.
Electric is so much safer when set up correctly

I beg to differ here , you are stating this as if electricity is risk free and not one thing could go wrong "bullshit" . What ever you use some common sense needs to be employed , having a rubber gas hose connected where it can get hot and catch fire is not "common sense" not even close to it. In fact it is exactly comparable to bodgy element wiring


No mate, electricity is far from risk free but when professionally set up it has less "potential" hazards than gas.
Yes, gas can be made "reasonably" safe but it still has its inherent dangers.

Re: Winter Warning

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 9:12 pm
by MacStill
Fuck gas