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New Zealand natives

Postby aliced » Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:41 pm

I have been mucking around with some new zealand native trees for 'oaking'.

At the moment I have some 'extract of brewing maltexo' on some Rata. It has not been on the wood long and has a definite taste, very smoky and really rather quite refreshing.

I cut some pohutakawa the other day to try, but it has to season first.

We are coming into the season where all the natives start shedding berries,

I was wondering if anyone has ever used them in their brews?
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby TBone » Thu Oct 31, 2013 4:11 pm

Interesting questions mate...not that I can add anything. Far as I've gotten is using Manuka for smoking meat...but that's not really related!
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby aliced » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:38 pm

I remember kiwistiller tried some stuff some time ago, but I never found any results.

So, for the hell of it, I might just give it a go meself :)
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby TBone » Thu Oct 31, 2013 5:42 pm

I can't guarantee...but I reckon if you contacted these guys they could probably talk about what native timber might be suitable for ageing spirits.

http://www.nelsoncooperage.co.nz/
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby aliced » Thu Oct 31, 2013 6:25 pm

Nice find. Cheers man.

The prices are a bit steep on the spirit barrels but.
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby Kimbo » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:46 pm

Please be aware guys that some timbers contain poisons.
They may be great for smoking, but ageing high ABV alcohol in it can leach out the toxins.
Stay safe ;-)
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby kiwikeg » Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:59 pm

I have been meaning to reply to this thread but haven't. Search kauri on this forum and go to the she-oak thread for some info.
Also search nz-made on HD for a good thread.
I wasn't sure from the O.P. are we talking native timber or native berries here?
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby aliced » Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:09 pm

Awesome mate, I will have a read through and report.......

I was reading a little bit back about some dudes who stilled a whole bunch of goods here, some years back, one of the first distilleries I think, and, they fucked it all by using Kauri barrels, so that one was always off the list.......
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby kiwikeg » Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:36 pm

aliced wrote:Awesome mate, I will have a read through and report.......

I was reading a little bit back about some dudes who stilled a whole bunch of goods here, some years back, one of the first distilleries I think, and, they fucked it all by using Kauri barrels, so that one was always off the list.......

Cool i have tried a few things since those posts, constant journey of discovery. Whats a real winner is Huhu grubs in your homemade tequila/mescal. If you find a good log drop them in some neutral til you can use them.
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby Dyno » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:18 am

kiwikeg wrote:
aliced wrote:Awesome mate, I will have a read through and report.......

I was reading a little bit back about some dudes who stilled a whole bunch of goods here, some years back, one of the first distilleries I think, and, they fucked it all by using Kauri barrels, so that one was always off the list.......

Cool i have tried a few things since those posts, constant journey of discovery. Whats a real winner is Huhu grubs in your homemade tequila/mescal. If you find a good log drop them in some neutral til you can use them.


Haha...eaten a few of those when I was a kid...ugggggghhhh...Dried possum's not too bad either, lightly smoked with a bit of Pohutakawa.. :laughing-rolling: ...poor mans biltong... :))
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby kiwikeg » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:20 pm

Never thought of smoking bush monkeys, that's a really good idea, Im gonna give that a go. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby tuibillda » Sun Dec 08, 2013 5:29 pm

tried some tea tree chips.no ones dead yet
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby SBB » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:15 pm

Kimbo wrote:Please be aware guys that some timbers contain poisons.
They may be great for smoking, but ageing high ABV alcohol in it can leach out the toxins.

Your spot on with that Kimbo, there are plenty of Aussie Eucalypts and hard woods that are perfect for smoking meats ,fish and other things ....but you wouldnt want them soaking in your hard won spirit.
tuibillda wrote:tried some tea tree chips.no ones dead yet

Might not be dead yet, but how do you know your kidneys are not quietly disintegrating??.
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Re: New Zealand natives

Postby kiwikeg » Sun Dec 08, 2013 6:57 pm

Another problem is the Aussie tea tree is a different species to the kiwi Type tea tree (Manuka).
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