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Storing neutral

Postby jacobraven » Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:56 pm

For those who make neutral what do you store it at I have been storing at 90+% in glass demijohns but was wondering it smells lovely at 90+% but once I water it down to make vodka40% it seems to get a stronger odour (taste better then store bought but) then at 90% which seems weird yes I do cuts etc. And the 90% is even aged a bit you could say would it be better to keep it a 40 if I'm storing it. Just guna need a lot more demijohns
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby benpandaae86 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:24 pm

Do you use tap, spring or filtered water
i store mine at 80% so that when i need it i put 4l of 80% into my big glass mason jar with staino tap and add 4l of water to get 8l of 40%
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby jacobraven » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:03 pm

I just use the pureau 10 litre goon sack so good water just confusing why you it smells worse cnt really comment on taste but smell
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby Atreu » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:14 pm

Just remember, storing @ 90%+ is a fire hazard... That shit will blow sky fucking high... Unless you have appropriate storage options, I wouldn't do it.

65% is the most I'll do, (for oaking) and I store that stuff WELL away from potential ignition hazards...


Something to consider.
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby thedarkmesh » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:48 pm

Atreu wrote:Just remember, storing @ 90%+ is a fire hazard... That shit will blow sky fucking high... Unless you have appropriate storage options, I wouldn't do it.

65% is the most I'll do, (for oaking) and I store that stuff WELL away from potential ignition hazards...


Something to consider.


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Re: Storing neutral

Postby scythe » Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:57 pm

Do you have petrol containers at your house?
Do you store them safely?
Treat >40% the same way you would petrol in regards to storage.
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby dogbreath vodka » Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:16 pm

jacobraven wrote:For those who make neutral what do you store it at I have been storing at 90+% in glass demijohns but was wondering it smells lovely at 90+% but once I water it down to make vodka40% it seems to get a stronger odour
Might want to look at how tight you are doing your cuts.
Could have heads and tails in it.
To be sure you have hearts take a cup with some water in it and add just a small amount of your neutral.
Give it a sniff.
It will show heads or tails real quick if it's there.


(taste better then store bought but) then at 90% which seems weird yes I do cuts etc. And the 90% is even aged a bit you could say would it be better to keep it a 40 if I'm storing it. Just guna need a lot more demijohns


You can store at 65% if you want to oak it or maybe use it for macerations etc..
Otherwise yep 40% is the go. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Some of us use 20ltr kegs or maybe use a 50ltr keg. Plenty of head room for aging your neutral. :handgestures-thumbupleft: :D
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby jacobraven » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:47 pm

Id consider them tight I usually keep 3/8 bottles from a 9-10% TPW a 25 litre avg 2--2. 5 litres n I have 330 ml bottles. Maybe I should start sniffing it from 40% not 90. I thought it would have a stronger odour at 90....
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby dogbreath vodka » Sat Sep 12, 2015 8:49 pm

:handgestures-thumbupleft:
Yep at lower % the other smells and flavours come out.
They become more obvious. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby rumdidlydum » Sat Sep 12, 2015 10:25 pm

dogbreath vodka wrote::handgestures-thumbupleft:
Yep at lower % the other smells and flavours come out.
They become more obvious. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

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Re: Storing neutral

Postby jacobraven » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:07 pm

Ok fuck they do. Wow what a difference that made, heads or tails clear as day now. With reruns im wondering i collect teverything form a 100 L TPW except 200mls then I double distill and end up with like 5 litres feints, 5 litres hearts roughly. I then distilled 50 L of TPW and double distilled with the feints do I then chuck them(feints). Do i continually keep re running them, or should I chuck the worst half each time. If anyone follows cause its not really feints of feints its a mix
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby WTDist » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:42 pm

i save my feints for a feints run. when i have enough i run them nice and slow and be harsh on the cuts, very harsh
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby jacobraven » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:51 pm

Suppose I could do it that way just my still is slow as. Like avg 600ml/ph probably the element. So running feints separate seems like a waste. I'm assuming you then chuck the harsh cuts?
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby dogbreath vodka » Fri Sep 18, 2015 7:55 pm

Everyone has their own way of doing things.
My take on this is
I do two distilling runs, no stripping runs.

So slow and steady does it.
Chuck the fores and as much of the heads as possible.
Save the rest.
Keep doing this until you have enough for a second distilling run at 40%.

The second distilling run should give you plenty of hearts.
Because I've chucked most of the heads before this second distilling run there usually isn't a lot of heads to worry about. :handgestures-thumbupleft: :handgestures-thumbupleft: ;-)
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby crow » Sat Sep 19, 2015 3:06 am

Beer and soft drink kegs work a treat, get some stainless cable to thread oak sticks onto and you can even age with them :-B
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby WTDist » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:20 am

how are those old fire extinguishers? the red ones that look like 10L or maybe more, haven't really taken notice of the capacity

most of the time when i go to the scrappy that have a whole bin full of them. Im wondering if they are stainless steel and could they be used? :think:
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby the Doctor » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:32 am

We store in 50 litre beer kegs with spears removed and a 2 inch triclamp cap...safe, secure, vapour sealed...it is the best bulk storage we have found. Mac has the caps.

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Re: Storing neutral

Postby Undertaker » Sat Sep 19, 2015 10:39 am

Hi Doc,
Is that higher proof for aging? Or just 40% stuff thats ready mixed?

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Re: Storing neutral

Postby Mad » Sat Sep 19, 2015 6:10 pm

the Doctor wrote:We store in 50 litre beer kegs with spears removed and a 2 inch triclamp cap...safe, secure, vapour sealed...it is the best bulk storage we have found. Mac has the caps.

Doc


definitely the way if you are wanting to store larger amounts.

I have 3x 5ltr demis and 1x25ltr demi and I tend just run out of room after I water it all down. but I usually bottle as I go too so I get my room back quick. got to "source" myself another keg for the rum :shifty:
I don't tend to store anything at 90%+ not for extended periods due to above mentioned safety concerns. I would suggest the same
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Re: Storing neutral

Postby dogbreath vodka » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:26 pm

If you put a 4" ferrule on the top of the 50lt keg and weld a loop into the 4" cap that will cover it.
You can hang dominoes from it.
Just sayin. :whistle:
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