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Postby mathew11 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 5:43 pm

Hi there,

I am currently using a inline filter setup:
http://www.clarencewaterfilters.com.au/ ... r-kit.html

Works ok.

However I am after more of a inline stainless/plastic with built in reservoir on top, and tap on the bottom.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/spirit-carbo ... 3f1aa9a92f

Does anyone know a good place to get one? cheaper or a good idea?

Thanks for your help.
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Re: Filter

Postby bt1 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:02 pm

Bloke,

noted your on a copper reflux still type. Can i step back one and ask do you simply prefer filtering as a process or is there an element in wash/stilling process your trying to remove?

If the later we could perhaps invest some efforts in preventing rather than post event fix.

just a few ideas...

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Re: Filter

Postby mathew11 » Thu Aug 30, 2012 8:32 pm

I guess its a process.

I first started with a AIR still, and had to filter all the time.
I have only ever done HBS brews with Turbo yeast. I guess thats why I have always filtered.

Its just what i am used too.
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Re: Filter

Postby emptyglass » Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:16 pm

mathew11 wrote:I have only ever done HBS brews with Turbo yeast. I guess thats why I have always filtered.


We need to investigate this before moving to fancy filters.
Have you considered different yeasts?
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Re: Filter

Postby mathew11 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 8:51 am

I have always donw HBS Brews, but I am about to do my first TPW. So will I not need to filter it?

What about those Fussiles they talk about?
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Re: Filter

Postby NotBenStiller » Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:20 pm

mathew11 wrote:I have always donw HBS Brews, but I am about to do my first TPW. So will I not need to filter it?

What about those Fussiles they talk about?



No need to filter TPW product - it produces a very clean neutral type that has no off flavours (if you practice your cuts well) whereas the turbos do (whether you cut well or not)

Fusel oils get taken out in the tails with good cuts on a neutral run
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Re: Filter

Postby mathew11 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 6:47 pm

Ok, sweet.

Just put the TPW down, so fingers crossed.

Thanks Guys, I will have to go read up on how to cut.

Tanks
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Re: Filter

Postby Linno » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:48 pm

Gday Matty11

i use a mix of turbos and TPW washes. Like yourself i started to carbon filter as a matter of 'process'. the set up i have is the Ezfilter by still sprits. it has twice the capacity of the one you were looking at for a comparable price. i know that people dont filter the TPW washes and i agrre its much better than the turbos however as i already was in the process of filtering my neutrals i have continued as i reckon that anything that makes my product better is a good thing. i am also terrible at cuts at the moment, i struggle to tell the good from the not as good.

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Re: Filter

Postby mathew11 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 9:13 pm

Linno,

Thats what I was thinking, Until I get the hang off Cuts as such.

As a Jube, I am probably better off filter until them.

But I am still up for any info offered to help along the way.
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Postby ChefRo » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:23 pm

mathew11 wrote:Linno,

Thats what I was thinking, Until I get the hang off Cuts as such.

As a Jube, I am probably better off filter until them.

But I am still up for any info offered to help along the way.


Do a run and pay speical attention to the middle portion. That's the best it will get. Don't forget to let it all air out. You will get the hang of it. Once you have ran your setup a few times you will get the feel for it.
The way you cut will change over time. A couple of chronic hang overs and trust me you will stay clear of the heads.
Filtering is a waste of time IMHO.
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Re: Filter

Postby mathew11 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 10:51 pm

Cheers Chefro
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Re: Filter

Postby emptyglass » Fri Aug 31, 2012 11:40 pm

You'll get the swing of it bloke.

You only need to filter dirty stuff. Just make clean stuff. Easier and cheaper.
Use nice yeast, let the wash settle, rack it if needed, don't run the still too fast, collect in small numbered jars, let it breath a day, then try cuts. Work from the middle jars out.
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Postby ChefRo » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:59 am

WineGlass wrote:You'll get the swing of it bloke.

You only need to filter dirty stuff. Just make clean stuff. Easier and cheaper.
Use nice yeast, let the wash settle, rack it if needed, don't run the still too fast, collect in small numbered jars, let it breath a day, then try cuts. Work from the middle jars out.


why filter at all.?? I just redistill with the next run. It will make your cuts wider, you are adding it to a wash you are already going to heat so no false economy.Just take a good amount of fores and be tight with your head to harts cut if you get into a cycle. The bad shite can build up.
Different rules for different schools i sopose. Finds what works for you.
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Re: Filter

Postby crow » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:38 am

mathew11 wrote:Linno,Thats what I was thinking, Until I get the hang off Cuts as such.
As a Jube, I am probably better off filter until them.
But I am still up for any info offered to help along the way.

use a good yeast , dont stress it , make good cuts and ya wont need to filter it . Its just an expense you really shouldn't need to fork out for
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Re: Filter

Postby bt1 » Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:59 am

hello mathew,

You'll be surprised how much and how quickly you learn from cuts. The first cuts you do will very quickly let your nose and tastebuds know what's ok and what's not.

Don't let the greed monster in ...if it don't meet with the approval of nose and tastebuds don't let it into your collectables. re run the discards in a later wash.

Past that cuts become more of a experience subjective process, learning different cut regimes for rums, grain/sugar washes etc or simply wanting more bite or less in a drink. This is the part that takes time and well worth a few quick notes on the trusty pc for later reference as it can become a little blury over time...wash type, still run, cuts made and end taste, do different next time.

Enjoy it! the standards you set early will most likely be the ones your using in years to come.

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Re: Filter

Postby Homebrewer » Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:01 pm

I know this is an older thread but I also have been using turbo yeast for my entire distilling life (that's changing as we speak tho :-D )
I had this filter made up several years ago and has served me extremely well over those years. I use a "freedom" drinking water bottle 15liters upside down in the top and just catch it at the bottom. Set the needle valve to a ssslllooowww drip and forget about it for a day or 2.
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Postby BackyardBrewer » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:15 am

What's in it? Carbon? Charcoal?
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Re: Filter

Postby Homebrewer » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:16 am

500grms activated carbon.
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Postby BackyardBrewer » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:19 am

Do you change the carbon every run?
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Re: Filter

Postby Homebrewer » Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:15 am

Yeah mate, filtered each lot twice, once through recycled from the last brew then through fresh carbon. At $13 a kilo it adds up. Just put down a TPW so hopefully I won't need to use it often anymore.
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