Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Doubleuj » Wed Sep 13, 2017 3:54 pm

I'm amazed at how a couple more months helps my ngw, not that much lasts more than a month :obscene-drinkingdrunk:
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby ThePaterPiper » Thu Sep 14, 2017 6:41 pm

guys, is it possible to collect the lees from this wash and refrigerate/freeze and then pick up on the gens later after thawing out?
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby orcy » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:06 pm

You will kill the yeast by freezing the lees. Any particular reason you need to take a break?
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby ThePaterPiper » Thu Sep 14, 2017 7:13 pm

orcy wrote:You will kill the yeast by freezing the lees. Any particular reason you need to take a break?


I want to get onto the single malt ASAP and have one of my fermenters tied up with the NGW. If it's not a good idea, we can just run with the one 23L fermenter, I just wanted to get closer to 40L to go into the boiler for the run.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Sam. » Thu Sep 14, 2017 8:49 pm

Your better off freezing some backset to start another gen with fresh yeast :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby ThePaterPiper » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:07 pm

Sam. wrote:Your better off freezing some backset to start another gen with fresh yeast :handgestures-thumbupleft:


So the most important part of the gens is the backset? Excellent. It would be good to be able to run 40l through instead of only 20.

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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Sam. » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:08 pm

That's where the concentrated goodness is ;-)
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby bluc » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:10 pm

Just watch the amount you use. Ph may become an issue if you over do it..
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby ThePaterPiper » Thu Sep 14, 2017 9:11 pm

Sweet :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Grumpydude » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:18 pm

Hi Guy's, I am currently about to run my second gen of NGW as well as a UJSSM. I have a FSD neutraliser rig and was planning on removing bubble plates and stripping each gen until I have enough low wines for a spirit run. Then a slow run with 4 plates, am I in the ballpark? I have seen several posts suggesting a single run with four plates is best. If you are only running once with four plates are you keeping hearts cuts and putting heads and tails into your next run? I'm slightly confused, any advice would be appreciated.Cheers.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby orcy » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:24 pm

The whole idea of a bubbler is that you only need one run. Heads generally get tossed. Tails are recycled into the next boiler charge, or kept for neutral runs.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Grumpydude » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:56 pm

Hi orcy, thanks for your reply, when you say heads are tossed are you referrng to foreshots? I usually toss about 150 mls of foreshots I keep in full reflux for about 30 mins to compress heads( four plates installed), remove foreshots and run at a toothpick stream thereafter until tails appear. I then combine the heads and tails on my next run. I collect in 300 ml jars, air for 48 hours, make cuts and age hearts on charred oak. Sound O.K?
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby bayshine » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:04 pm

Grumpydude wrote:Hi Guy's, I am currently about to run my second gen of NGW as well as a UJSSM. I have a FSD neutraliser rig and was planning on removing bubble plates and stripping each gen until I have enough low wines for a spirit run. Then a slow run with 4 plates, am I in the ballpark? I have seen several posts suggesting a single run with four plates is best. If you are only running once with four plates are you keeping hearts cuts and putting heads and tails into your next run? I'm slightly confused, any advice would be appreciated.Cheers.



All ways you've described can be done, so it's up to you to try :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Personally I like to strip 3 or 4 batches or gens with no plates as fast as I can (pukes don't matter) and then do a slow spirit run with 4 plates... works best for me :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby orcy » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:05 pm

I think most people think that the heads are unrecoverable and just bin them or add them to a neutral run later on. Tails down to 20% can carry interesting flavours and can provide more complexity to future runs. But in practice, what you are doing is fine.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Grumpydude » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:11 pm

Thank you both bayshine and orcy, I'll be spending quite a few hours in the garage this weekend. I wasn't sure whether I would retain more flavour on a single run with four plates or two runs including stripping. I guess I'll have to try both and see what transpires.Cheers.
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