Rum Recipe Discussion

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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby EziTasting » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:29 pm

coffe addict wrote::text-+1: on the port and rum combo. I have found six months is adequate and the port can be reused a cpl times, then run into neutral.


or drunk ... just saying...
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby prawnz » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:31 pm

TasSpirits wrote: The American Oak dominoes had been soaking in Penfold Club Port for over 12 months. :handgestures-thumbupleft:



Bloody nora , this sounds like a very good idea . I'm tempted to do this then oak some neutral with the doms .
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby rumsponge » Mon Feb 13, 2017 8:41 pm

great thanks all.
have just started to soak some american medium toast dominoes. will compare to french and get back to you in a year :wave:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby coffe addict » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:13 pm

@ezitasting yes if used just once and the only a small amount of oak in a litre of port.
I had oak staves cut to fit into a 500ml jar and poured port over a jar of oak. The port was undrinkable but was still able to use it again.
The rum barrel had port in it for six months beforehand and the port was delicious.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby EziTasting » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:56 pm

coffe addict wrote:@ezitasting yes if used just once and the only a small amount of oak in a litre of port.
I had oak staves cut to fit into a 500ml jar and poured port over a jar of oak. The port was undrinkable but was still able to use it again.
The rum barrel had port in it for six months beforehand and the port was delicious.


Hahahaha Barrel = 1, staves = 0! :dance:

Me, I can't afford a barrel yet, so I will have to reread clllllll the posts on Rum and fish out all the nuggets I have read but since forgotten! Ah, too much alcohol - its killed my photographic memory ... :obscene-drinkingdrunk:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Gavhancox » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:18 pm

I am pretty sure I have had my first dud rum ferment, although I have had an infextion before, this is different.

It's the standard rum recipe started off at 1100 and ended the same, I was not real concerned about this because previous generations with a heap of backset have always ended high. It tastes and looks like it's done so I run the first lot through on a stripping run and it started off at 20% instead of the usual 60-70%.

I know it's been hot over the last several weeks especially in a locked up shed, so I'm not sure what has happened any ideas?

I repitched the yeast just in case last night but noticed nothing tonight. The only difference to the usual is I used the lees this time and could only get the ph up to 4.9 at the start
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:24 pm

I had the same thing happen never did work out what went wrong..
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Gavhancox » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:28 pm

It's where I tip the 180 litres is the trick
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:31 pm

Ouch thats gunna hurt.180l x_x . Mine was only 30 and hurt enough. I try and put everything i can down the sewerage. Keeps smell down. My advice bucket or pump it down nearest drain..
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Woodsy71 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:42 pm

You sure it's buggered?

In hot weather. rum wash's can run dry in 3 days. Brings some great flavours over.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:56 pm

He stripped some super low abv 20% i normally turn mine off there..
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Woodsy71 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:22 pm

Cheers bluc, curse my skim reading :smile:

Only thing i can think of is that temperature can play havoc with a large volume rum wash :think: I had a 200l wash go astray a few years back.

I now only use 30l fermenters. Haven't skipped a beat since :smile:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Gavhancox » Wed Feb 15, 2017 6:50 am

I like my 180 lt washes, I do 4-5 stripping runs through the week which gives me around 40lt of low wines then one spirit run on the weekend. By the following week it's all Oaked up in demijohns, nice and quick.mthen it's the long wait to drink the stuff. I put down another wash pretty much straight away so I have the end product out every 4-6weeks.

I've left all my stuff for 1 year, my first drinking batch is ready in April. I found waiting for the amount of low wines to accumulate out of 30 lt ferments just too hard

I'm going to have to do a heap of trips to the toilet to dump this stuff, preferablY when the missus is out
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby coffe addict » Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:30 am

I've had two fail one was crap molasses the other low ph.
So I know your pain of dumping 180L, if you don't have a ph meter I'd highly suggest getting one. I haven't had one fail since.
Love the smell you get from180L rum fermenting...
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Azza76 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:09 pm

What ph meters are you blokes using for rum?
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby hillzabilly » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:33 pm

I use one like this,available from HBS, aquarium supplies,or hydroponic store,cost about $50 bucks.Get some buffer solution so ya can test and calibrate the meter as well.cheers hillzabilly ;-)
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby coffe addict » Wed Feb 15, 2017 1:51 pm

I was told that if you don't have a ph tester you can throw a pinch of bicarb into the wash and if it sinks and then fizzes it's ok but if it has an aggressive bubbling/fizzing it'll be too low... Not very scientific but may give you an idea.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Azza76 » Wed Feb 15, 2017 5:09 pm

Just wondering because I had my 2nd gen wash stall would not start up after 1/2 a day so I pitched some more yeast took a while but is going strong now I still can't work out why the original yeast would not start left the dunder mix overnight with sugar molasses then tipped into fermenters 2 x 30 lt and nothing :think:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby EziTasting » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:43 pm

It's funny but I don't think we include sufficient information!
I see a lot of "Can someone help me? My wash has stalled..."

Every time I ask or see this question asked there is so much other info that is requested to help out solve the issue...
Not meaning to have a go, but there are so many variables that could be the culprit!

Those that 'actually' know what they're doing, please add/amend the following
Info needed:
1) ingredients, with weights;
2) Temperatures at each step (certainly when adding the yeast);
3) temperature of where the FV is staying during the fermentation;
4) staring gravity, end gravity;
5) pH of the wash, initially (pre yeast or just after) and perhaps end;
6) what water you used (rain, distilled, tap, fish pond, etc);
7) qty of dunder/ backseat added and pH of that;
8) ...?

This info will not only give factual data to solve the potential problem but it will give us some good data that would benefit us all!! :-B

But, hey, I just want your data so I can improve my stuffing grog! :obscene-birdiedoublered:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby rumdidlydum » Wed Feb 15, 2017 7:51 pm

The amount of dunder or backset can have a huge affect. It's generally quite acidic:-B
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