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pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:34 pm
by Redux
ok folks heres what im going to try...

per 25 litre fermenter...

2kg cooked cracked corn
1/4 tsp citric acid
4kg sugar
safspirit yeast..

i reckon ill do 5 gens (strip to keg) then a 4 plate spirit run..

as with bwko ill swap out 500ml of the grains for fresh per gen...

hoping for a corny flavour, traditional moonshiney sort of. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

any pitfalls you guys can see?

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:44 pm
by Nino
Will you be cooking the corn? If so for how long?

I will be interested to see how this comes out :)

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:48 pm
by Redux
its on the stove as we speak..... just cooking it to add water, not looking at an enzyme reaction.......

boil it for an hour or 2 i guess... till its al-dente... ill keep youse posted...

:D

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:51 pm
by Doubleuj
Redux wrote:
any pitfalls you guys can see?

Yeah, I'm not there to taste test.
So I'm guessing you're going for an American bourbon like whisky?

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:54 pm
by Plumby
Is this like a ujsm but mashing the corn for sugars and flavour not just fermenting on top of it for flavour?

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 5:56 pm
by Redux
Plumby wrote:Is this like a ujsm but mashing the corn for sugars and flavour not just fermenting on top of it for flavour?


ujsm= bwko i think?

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:35 pm
by viking
Redux,
I did something similar about a year ago. 15kg cracked boiled for an hour in a bag, 15kg dex, filled up to 100L, then amercian whiskey.
1 run over 4 (maybe 5) plates. I don't have any notes on the cuts, but I remember being pretty tight. On Amercian oak, light - maybe 7g/l for 6 months. only a couple of bottled left.
I found it good and smooth but lacking depth. Good as a shot or a sip, but nothing lingers in the mouth. Good experiment, let us know how you go.

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 6:42 pm
by Redux
cheers viking... did you do generations to intensify flavour? or single gen?

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:00 pm
by Plumby
Redux wrote:
Plumby wrote:Is this like a ujsm but mashing the corn for sugars and flavour not just fermenting on top of it for flavour?


ujsm= bwko i think?

Very similar but ujsm uses 7 pound cracked corn no mash or boil and 7 pound sugar, bread yeast and that's it, do the generation thing then when you have 40-45 litres low wines do a spirit run.

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:16 pm
by Redux
Plumby wrote:
Redux wrote:
Plumby wrote:Is this like a ujsm but mashing the corn for sugars and flavour not just fermenting on top of it for flavour?


ujsm= bwko i think?

Very similar but ujsm uses 7 pound cracked corn no mash or boil and 7 pound sugar, bread yeast and that's it, do the generation thing then when you have 40-45 litres low wines do a spirit run.



:laughing-rolling:

bloody close to what im doing....


wonder why i didnt find this when i was researching?

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:20 pm
by viking
Reduz,
Just 1 gen. I might get around to doing multiple gens, its good for something different and corn is cheap.

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:22 pm
by Plumby
I looked on here for it to as I had heard good results but its not here for some reason. I got my first gen going right now and hopefully do a striping run Sunday then fire up gen two. Just google search ujsm and you will find it, pretty easy recipe to follow :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:24 pm
by Redux
viking wrote:Reduz,
Just 1 gen. I might get around to doing multiple gens, its good for something different and corn is cheap.


swish... yes corn is cheap... i paid 1.10$ per kg.... barley is cheap too... 1$ per kg...

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2016 7:26 pm
by bluc
I do 2kg cracked corn .5kg both pilsner and rye (or wheat instead of rye). Is a tasty drop i did just corn but like cfw found it a little lacking. I like what barley and rye added :handgestures-thumbupleft:
As is will still be tasty imho :happy-partydance:

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 4:34 am
by Redux
any thoughts on adding a litre or 2 of backet to each gen to concentrate flavour?

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 6:58 am
by Plumby
Go for it but I'd be going higher probably 5-6 litres to go for that sour mash style. I've been doing 5 litres in a 20 litre wash and there is heaps of flavour in there.

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 11:34 am
by Redux
Plumby wrote:Go for it but I'd be going higher probably 5-6 litres to go for that sour mash style. I've been doing 5 litres in a 20 litre wash and there is heaps of flavour in there.


beauty!!! thanks Plumby ill try that.....

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Re: I figured out how you do this Redux

PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2017 3:12 pm
by Plumby
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Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 12:06 am
by Swedish Pride
Redux wrote:swish... yes corn is cheap... i paid 1.10$ per kg.... barley is cheap too... 1$ per kg...


there you go, now just get some enzymes and convert em in to some quality AG :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: pure corn sugarhead....

PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:58 am
by Bushy
Swedish Pride wrote:
Redux wrote:swish... yes corn is cheap... i paid 1.10$ per kg.... barley is cheap too... 1$ per kg...


there you go, now just get some enzymes and convert em in to some quality AG :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Just like that ay? ;-)
Pure corn sugarhead is alright, you can definitely taste the corn but for me it got to be a bit sweet even with backset. The other grains in a BWKO help to give it a bit more character.