RUM HELP NEEDED

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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby Doubleuj » Sun Jul 16, 2017 1:50 pm

An out of the box thought, anything different with you? Had a cold lately or something that might throw off your senses? :-B
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby Rush006 » Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:23 pm

No colds, I don't think its smearing, but if it is then it might be the outside temp here then(cold at night when i run) as my takeoff rate is quite slow and RC is almost off, just a trickle running through. Been running this still for a couple of years now and never had any problem last winter. The whole still has been striped and cleaned. Plates are bright copper again. will see how the next few runs go.
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby Rush006 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 12:30 am

Could a cold temp when fermenting cause a bad ferment? or would it just be slower?
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby woodduck » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:55 am

If it got cold enough it would stall. Only way to know would be to take sg readings at the start and compare.
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby bluc » Fri Jul 21, 2017 7:33 pm

I dont think its stalled ferment either.

When it happened to me i had normall amount of low wines. It has happened to me twice on rum and once on an all grain mash.
Also since its happened on molasses and grain i dont think its ingrediants.
Only things i can think of is a leak(doubt it because volume is right just no hearts) or infection. :-B
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby rash » Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:22 pm

I just had a failed rum attempt also. Rather disappointed as it was my first propper run through my new bubler. 23ltr batch. Turfed first 250ml as fores and collected in 250ml lots after that. First jar definate heads, by second abv started dropping, third was strait into wet cardboarx smell... running 4 plates, 3" column, steady to broken stream at 2ltrs/hr.
I kept the run going to record some data to add to this thread.
Ran bubbler as per Mac's bubbler tutorial thread.
250ml jars with recorded abv's
1 - 89-87
2 - 87-80
3 - 80-70
4 - 70-66
5 - 66-64
6 - 64-61
7 - 61-58
8 - 58-54
9 - 54-53
10 - was over it and closed off reflux water and took 500ml down to 30%.
Meh.... might get a cfw going i think.....
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby bluc » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:46 am

Another with no hearts me and rush have both had similar runs, heads straight into tails and no idea why....
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby Sam. » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:49 am

I'm thinking some sort of infection might be the culprit here.
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby EziTasting » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:14 am

Just got back from holidays, Bad luck Rush with your run!

Was hoping for a better outcome to your washes after our last discussion! Will be getting into it again next week and hopefully will have something good to report...

Hope you find whats causing this soon!
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby coffe addict » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:00 am

rash wrote:I just had a failed rum attempt also. Rather disappointed as it was my first propper run through my new bubler. 23ltr batch. Turfed first 250ml as fores and collected in 250ml lots after that. First jar definate heads, by second abv started dropping, third was strait into wet cardboarx smell... running 4 plates, 3" column, steady to broken stream at 2ltrs/hr.
I kept the run going to record some data to add to this thread.
Ran bubbler as per Mac's bubbler tutorial thread.
250ml jars with recorded abv's
1 - 89-87
2 - 87-80
3 - 80-70
4 - 70-66
5 - 66-64
6 - 64-61
7 - 61-58
8 - 58-54
9 - 54-53
10 - was over it and closed off reflux water and took 500ml down to 30%.
Meh.... might get a cfw going i think.....
Ash


If tails are present in the 3rd Jar and you still got 6more jars it's smearing terribly. I never get more than 2jars of tails if I don't close off the rc. Usually 1.5jars. More heat and more reflux will clean the above run up.
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby EziTasting » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:03 am

I've been stripping my rum washes and they usually start off with a highe ABV (~50-60%) but of late it's started @ 30%...
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby TasSpirits » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:08 am

I'm with Sam, the only thing I can think of is some type of infection that is not turning the wash to vinegar. :think:
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby coffe addict » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:19 am

Ezi that's another issue to what rash has. Your's is low on alcohol and as Sam said could be infection related but for rash to be getting 6plus jars of tails on a bubbler there's not enough reflux to hold tails back.
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby coffe addict » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:23 am

3in column at 2Lt an hour is too quick in my opinion same heat but slow to 1.5ish and it'll clean it up. I usually take off at 2.2 on a 4in column.
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby Sam. » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:51 pm

ah, I didn't read 3 inch column, yeah that's probably a bit quick.
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby EziTasting » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:18 pm

coffe addict wrote:Ezi that's another issue to what rash has. Your's is low on alcohol and as Sam said could be infection related but for rash to be getting 6plus jars of tails on a bubbler there's not enough reflux to hold tails back.


Sorry, when we spoke it sounded like the same issue, my apologies... still in a post Cruise daze...
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby rash » Sun Jul 23, 2017 1:45 pm

coffe addict wrote:
rash wrote:I just had a failed rum attempt also. Rather disappointed as it was my first propper run through my new bubler. 23ltr batch. Turfed first 250ml as fores and collected in 250ml lots after that. First jar definate heads, by second abv started dropping, third was strait into wet cardboarx smell... running 4 plates, 3" column, steady to broken stream at 2ltrs/hr.
I kept the run going to record some data to add to this thread.
Ran bubbler as per Mac's bubbler tutorial thread.
250ml jars with recorded abv's
1 - 89-87
2 - 87-80
3 - 80-70
4 - 70-66
5 - 66-64
6 - 64-61
7 - 61-58
8 - 58-54
9 - 54-53
10 - was over it and closed off reflux water and took 500ml down to 30%.
Meh.... might get a cfw going i think.....
Ash


If tails are present in the 3rd Jar and you still got 6more jars it's smearing terribly. I never get more than 2jars of tails if I don't close off the rc. Usually 1.5jars. More heat and more reflux will clean the above run up.


Ahh, thanks coffe, havnt quite learnt how to drive the thing yet then.... so up the heat and slow the output with more reflux to hold the high % through the run and stop the smearing? Boiler is still full and about to be cleaned out. Should i just dump all the jars back in and run again?
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby bluc » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:02 pm

Worth a shot :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby rash » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:09 pm

bluc wrote:Worth a shot :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Cool, have dumped it all back in and will try again tonight..
Thanks,
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Re: RUM HELP NEEDED

Postby bluc » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:45 pm

Hows it going?
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