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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:01 am
by Aussiedownunder01
I am about to bottle about 18 litres of nutrigrain spirit that's been sitting on oak chips at 85 % for 6 months
Is there any secrets of measuring the alcohol %

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:28 am
by P3T3rPan
Alchometer in a test flask works great

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:30 am
by WalterWhite
:text-+1: or I just use my parrot as a test flask now I have one.
And use the calculator in the newbies corner ... Awesome tool.
Add the alcohol to the water, not the other way round...
And let us know how it tastes!! Hope your patience has paid off! :handgestures-thumbupleft: :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:33 am
by Doubleuj
BennyHiggo wrote::text-+1:
Add the alcohol to the water, not the other way round...

Whys that?

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:46 am
by WalterWhite
Something to do with the endothermic reaction caused by mixing the two.
the dilution is far quicker when you add the alc to the water, as more alcohol is added the % rises rather than mixing the other way round where the mixing is attempting to reduce the %.
I've tried both ways and find there is less of a total volume loss adding the alc to the water. Eg. 300ml + 300ml mixes to closer to 600ml.
It also helps to prevent clouding

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 11:31 am
by Aussiedownunder01
Thanks what I need to know after being oaked does the Alcolmeter read accurate
I thought with the tannin it may read high or low

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:30 pm
by Meatheadinc
BennyHiggo wrote:I've tried both ways and find there is less of a total volume loss adding the alc to the water. Eg. 300ml + 300ml mixes to closer to 600ml.It also helps to prevent clouding


regardless of which is added to what the final solution will occupy the same volume

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:40 pm
by P3T3rPan
:text-+1:

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:40 pm
by Aussiedownunder01
Thanks tomorrow is the day
Watered down a bottle to what I recon is 40% and a mate came around last night
He buys $50 or $60 stuff and he recons it is far better :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:10 pm
by Pete8686
Have some 8 week old ngw on charred medium toasted dominoes. The shit is great!

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:36 pm
by bluc
WTDist wrote:
bluc wrote:Does this recipe taste like burbon or whiskey?

:wtf:
arnt they the same but age, corn concentration and filtering? or do you mean scotch?

im also interested in this info :handgestures-thumbupleft:

I dont know I dont drink whiskey or burbon to me they taste the same, but family friends reakon theres a difference in taste... :think:

Doubleuj wrote:Kimbo describes this as a light Irish whiskey if anything, it's at the start of the thread somewhere I remember.

Thanks might make some of this and some of zaks cfw see what they prefer...

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:40 pm
by stattonb
does this look like a good rate,my first spirit run with the controller after stripping 4 nutrigrain washes ???
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l6I42Vwdto[/youtube]

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:48 pm
by WTDist
only need the-l6I42Vwdto from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l6I42Vwdto



i missed the - in my first part before i edited it 8-}

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:57 pm
by stattonb
still new to posting videos on forums lol

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:12 pm
by Undertaker
I use a formula for calculating how much water is required
Desired %/Actual % = x then
1 - x = y then
z * y = amount of water required in the bottle. ( where z = volume of bottle in ml)

For instance
Desired % ( say 40%) divided by a demijohn of 65% aged and oaked spirit = 0.6154
1 minus 0.6154 = 0.3846
(If filling 1125 ml bottles) then 1125 times 0.3846 = 432.675
So you need to add 433 ml of water to each bottle and top up with spirit.
I just use a measuring jug and add my water to each bottle, all lined up in a row, then top up the row with spirit. No stopping and guessing if you need a bit more water or a bit more spirit.
Just substitute the numbers for whatever % and ml's you are using.

Cheers Phil

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 5:21 pm
by stattonb
?????? was just asking if my drip rate is good for a spirit run but thanks for the info :)

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:59 pm
by WTDist
Undertaker wrote:I use a formula for calculating how much water is required
Desired %/Actual % = x then
1 - x = y then
z * y = amount of water required in the bottle. ( where z = volume of bottle in ml)

For instance
Desired % ( say 40%) divided by a demijohn of 65% aged and oaked spirit = 0.6154
1 minus 0.6154 = 0.3846
(If filling 1125 ml bottles) then 1125 times 0.3846 = 432.675
So you need to add 433 ml of water to each bottle and top up with spirit.
I just use a measuring jug and add my water to each bottle, all lined up in a row, then top up the row with spirit. No stopping and guessing if you need a bit more water or a bit more spirit.
Just substitute the numbers for whatever % and ml's you are using.

Cheers Phil

are u talking about diluting?
there is an easy way for this.
say you have 3L of 95% you do 3*95=285
then divide by what % you want. say 40%
it would be 285/40=7.125L for the total
so water required would be 4.125L after you minus the original 3L

Is this what you meant? or is your way for a single bottle?

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 8:06 pm
by stattonb
sorry i ment im doing a spirit run with my pot still and just got a power controller and i know your ment to run it slow on a spirit run and was just wondering if the flow coming out of my still is right

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:07 pm
by Pete8686
I would say you could prob run a bit quicker, like a broken stream/trickle. But I've only got a few pot spirit runs up my sleeve so I may be wrong.

Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2015 8:05 am
by Undertaker
stattonb wrote:was just asking if my drip rate is good for a spirit run but thanks for the info

.....sorry got a bit carried away with the posts above talking about diluting :oops:

WTDist wrote:or is your way for a single bottle?

Yeah filling individual bottles. Instead of diluting the whole batch to 40% then filling bottles you can use that formula to get any % you want. Say you want most at 40% but maybe a special bottle at something else then use the formula.
Anyway............ back to the original thread :techie-typing:

Cheers Phil