Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby dans.brew » Fri Sep 04, 2020 7:11 pm

RC Al wrote:yeah its getting harder to find it cheap now, there is a looming grain shortage i think


The supermarket chains use 'stories' to manipulate prices. Barley prices have actually dropped about $100/ ton over recent months. Wheat prices aren't far behind either. :angry-banghead:
There is more grain out there still than what they say. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Wellsy » Fri Sep 04, 2020 8:31 pm

Not likely to be a shortage either if China keeps refusing to take our grain.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby dans.brew » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:44 pm

Wellsy wrote:Not likely to be a shortage either if China keeps refusing to take our grain.

Its a bit of a stuff up considering they have been buying a shiteload of our barley, but we have been too reliant on their market up till now.
Bout time we put our eggs in a few different baskets.
I think they are working on a few alternatives at the moment.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Wellsy » Sat Sep 05, 2020 6:27 am

Maybe we could do a group buy :)
I found a site yesterday that does your own design glass bottles. Minimum order needed but only 40k, best price if you order 100k bottles. Cashflow is a bit tight otherwise I would have see what we can do lol
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Wellsy » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:21 am

iGA have nutrigrain half price this week for $4:25 for 805 grams.
How many is too many ???
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby The Stig » Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:58 am

I remember going through the checkout with 10 box’s and 30kg sugar at Coles .
Coles also had Coke on special so my Mrs had 20 x 2lt bottles .
Checkout chick asked me , what’s all this for ? I said whiskey and her face went blank.
When the Mrs got to the checkout she was asked if she was having a party and with a straight face she answered , no he needs something to drink with his whiskey.
Poor checkout chick didn’t know what to say.
Just remember, it will go stale and it won’t taste the same
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Wellsy » Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:11 am

Thanks for the heads up Stig, I thought it might go a little soggy but would still taste ok.
I will get enough for a couple of months.
I can’t believe how slow this wash ferments compared to BWKO, NGW is currtently taking just over a week.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby stillthinking » Mon Oct 12, 2020 10:48 pm

What’s the brains trust thoughts on stripping say 2 NGW washes and then adding the stripped washes to a third wash for a slow spirit run. Total volume in the 50l boiler would be about 40l with the result of the two strips and a third wash.

Is there any pros or cons for doing this, or is it better to strip all three and then do a spirit run with only 18l in the boiler, provided element stays covered?
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby RC Al » Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:36 pm

Nothing wrong with plan A, have done plenty that way and it is a good way to bring more flavours through in the early gens

I used make each batch a bit bigger than an exact number of strips so that i could do exactly that, but these days I'm sripping deeper and getting the collected strip to average below 40 per run instead

Get bigger a fermenter lols
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby stillthinking » Tue Oct 13, 2020 12:34 pm

Thanks Al.

I’m not really a whiskey drinker but just want to try something different. Would stripping first gen and doing another gen on the lees from that then adding the first gen strip to the second gen wash for a spirit run give a decent result, or does the flavour really need more gens to develop?
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby RC Al » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:20 pm

You will get a drinkable product, but it certainly develops over the gens. Doing the 2 strips and adding that to a third wash for a spirt run would get you some more flavor - sounds like your using a 25l fermenter?
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby stillthinking » Tue Oct 13, 2020 5:57 pm

Yep got a couple of 30l fermenters. Think I’ll stick to plan A and do the three washes.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby chiefkingston » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:19 pm

i was just wondering if anyone's tried this recipe without doing a stripping run and instead just running a really slow spirit run and how did it turn out.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Wellsy » Fri Oct 23, 2020 7:24 pm

I think one of the key factors in this recipe is the generational improvements mate.
You loose that if you just do the spirit run straight off.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby woodduck » Sat Oct 24, 2020 6:55 am

I don't think you would be impressed with the results. I'm not sure what a "Chinese mini still" is but I'm guessing its a pot still so the first run just won't clean it enough to be a nice drink.

Wellsy, strip runs dont really have anything to do with generations mate. Generations are done with reusing your "trub" from the last ferment to do another ferment.
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Wellsy » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:31 am

I understand that wood duck
I am a lazy typer mate and I was implying the mixing of the subsequent strip runs that gave the real results.
Unfortunately I forgot to allow for the guys who have not done that so provided potentially confusing advice.

Wood Duck is absolutely correct. strip runs dont make it any better. It is when you mix all your strip runs together for a spirit run that gets you the real improvement in flavour profile. You may need a voltage controller to enable you to do nice slow sprit runs
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby woodduck » Sat Oct 24, 2020 9:40 am

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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby chiefkingston » Sat Oct 24, 2020 11:54 am

i have a voltage controller and from what ive seen there seems to just be more pros by doing a stripping run but i guess i was just wondering if you could get a good result with a slow spirit run

thanks for the help
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby Wellsy » Sat Oct 24, 2020 12:06 pm

A good result is something that you enjoy and something you are happy to invest your time in getting :)

There is no right or wrong way here mate, just the way we all prefer.

Try it mate and see what happens, you can always try both ways when the timing is right for you
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Re: Nutrigrain Wash Discussion Thread

Postby southern45 » Sat Oct 24, 2020 4:43 pm

Nutri Gran was half price a couple of weeks ago, so have just put down 2 x 30L fermenters of this baby. Can’t wait!

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