Tomato paste wash?!?

[SBB]

What sort of yeild should I roughly expect after Runnin thru still

Presuming its a 25L wash with 6kg sugar your wash should be around 14% .....a bit high for a TPW, better off keeping it at 12ish.

The manufacturer of your still claims it will put out 92 -3% abv.......going by the calculators that gives a total output of 3.5L
This is before you throw away forshots, which leaves heads, hearts, and tails.
I looked at the Instruction sheet for your still http://www.kegking.com.au/Downloads/Keg ... Manual.pdf
They only tell you to throw away what smells like nail polish remover about 125 ml from memory.
There is no mention of Heads being removed, apparently these are good to drink......make up your own mind there, but I wouldn't drink it.
there is no mention of doing any other cuts as such............pretty piss poor instructions in my opinion.
They do go on to mention tails and that you can take them and re run them, But first they say water down to 50% abv.............40% would be a lot safer.
You'd end with a much better result by getting a heap of jars and making good cuts, keep the heads n tails for the next run. My guess is if you get 1.5 to 2 L of good hearts at 93% you'd be doing well..........My figures could be out as i haven't done a small batch of TPW in ages.

[BackyardBrewer]

Yeah SBB you're mileage is closer to mine.

I agree that a 25L wash with 6kg sugar & tomato paste yields about 10-15% pure alcohol at 93~95% after stilling.

I consider a 2L harvest of drinkable hearts out of my reflux still per run to be a good haul. I have never got 3.5L out of a TPW...turbo yes but never a TPW.

Still wouldn't go back to turbo, tastes like fuel:-(

[Linny]

TPW is like 1/4 the price ... just ferment 4x batches ... gives u more than a turbo LOL

[Pittzee27]

Cheers dj freestyla, I'm doin a 50 liter run now! Keen to see how it turns out :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[Pittzee27]

Cheers fellas! What would this wash be like thru a pot still? I drink bourbon and rumi have been ageing with oak chips

[BackyardBrewer]

Cheers fellas! What would this wash be like thru a pot still? I drink bourbon and rumi have been ageing with oak chips

You'd need to run it through twice for a clean neutral vodka.

Once hard and fast for a stripping run to get your low wines then a spirit run to get your finished drinking product.

[kingy]

After you strip can you store in a fermenter at 40% untill you still it.

[MacStill]

I wouldnt mate, much rather use glass or a keg..... :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[SBB]

I very much doubt its possible to get a clean neutral with a strip run and then just one spirit run using a pot still.
If it was that easy people wouldn't go to the trouble they do building reflux stills, experimenting with different packing's and all the other experimentation that goes on.

[BackyardBrewer]

I very much doubt its possible to get a clean neutral with a strip run and then just one spirit run using a pot still.
If it was that easy people wouldn't go to the trouble they do building reflux stills, experimenting with different packing's and all the other experimentation that goes on.

To clean it up more Would you strip twice or spirit run twice ? Or

[Distillnation]

I imagine a double spirit run would be beneficial. Two stripping runs might not be enough to clean up the off flavours/smells for the spirit run. Someone with experience in this might be able to correct me though

[MacStill]

I very much doubt its possible to get a clean neutral with a strip run and then just one spirit run using a pot still.
If it was that easy people wouldn't go to the trouble they do building reflux stills, experimenting with different packing's and all the other experimentation that goes on.

To clean it up more Would you strip twice or spirit run twice ? Or

Strip twice then a nice slow spirit run :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[SBB]

To clean it up more Would you strip twice or spirit run twice ? Or

Spoze it depends whether we are taking neutral neutral, or something that tastes like badly made vodkaish type of stuff.
Ive never tried to make neutral with a pot still, so maybe Im wrong, But I would have said do a couple of washes, strip them both,......do a slow spirit run, make good cuts.....keep the hearts, put the heads and tails aside for another day. Take the hearts add lots of water, put them back in the boiler and do another slow spirit run making a second lot of cuts.
Different people have have different ideas of what good neutral should taste like, I recently tasted some that put the best Ive ever made to shame. I believe it came off the still at close to true azeotrope, even at high abv it had very little smell or taste. It really opened my eyes to whats possible, hopefully someday I can achieve a similar result.

[baldoss]

You'd need to run it through twice for a clean neutral vodka.

Once hard and fast for a stripping run to get your low wines then a spirit run to get your finished drinking product.

Really? By neutral I'm guessing you just mean a spirit with as little flavour as possible that's at whatever the max ABV you can get out of a pot still (approx 70% or thereabouts from what I've read)? Or are you talking a "real" neutral up around 95%? I was under the impression that you can't get anywhere near 90% (or even 80%) let alone that magic 95% mark from a pot. I would be stoked if it turns out I have the option of just running spirits over and over through a pot with some aggressive cuts to get a really good quality, flavourless neutral though :D

[invisigoth]

Really? By neutral I'm guessing you just mean a spirit with as little flavour as possible that's at whatever the max ABV you can get out of a pot still (approx 70% or thereabouts from what I've read)? Or are you talking a "real" neutral up around 95%? I was under the impression that you can't get anywhere near 90% (or even 80%) let alone that magic 95% mark from a pot. I would be stoked if it turns out I have the option of just running spirits over and over through a pot with some aggressive cuts to get a really good quality, flavourless neutral though :D

not quite true baldos. my strip runs particuarly after the forshots are around 90% and then they drop off. the rum'n'raisin i recently bottled was 3l @48% abv for the strip. what i kept as my final blended cut from the spirit run was 1.4l @81%. the first jar kept was 85% and the last was 74% abv after temperature adjustment. ;-)

after each run if you run it carefully you are going to loose some flavour. even if it's never in the 90's it will eventually get to the point where you can't taste anything. but i suspect it becomes a case of diminishing returns and you are better off using the right tool for the job. :dance:

[googe]

I used to get around 86-88% on some low wines tpw with my pot. Striped once and then spirit run will still have flavor. Its one of my fav drinks with coke though :-).

[vqstatesman]

Pittzee27,
You should get around 4.5L all up, I keep about 3L of hearts and run the heads & tails through with my next run.
As we speak, I am stripping 180L of TPW.

Hi Djfrestyla, How did your 180L batch go? how much end product did you end up with? Did you work with a normal ratios of ingredients?

[kingy]

I used to get around 86-88% on some low wines tpw with my pot. Striped once and then spirit run will still have flavor. Its one of my fav drinks with coke though :-).

I've only done 1 tpw through my pot. I stripped 50litres once and ended up with 12 litres of low wines. Then a spirit run and ended up with 5 litres at 40%.

I can drink it no problem at all and rate it above the cheaper bourbons from the bottlo.

[Sam.]

I used to get around 86-88% on some low wines tpw with my pot. Striped once and then spirit run will still have flavor. Its one of my fav drinks with coke though :-).

I've only done 1 tpw through my pot. I stripped 50litres once and ended up with 12 litres of low wines. Then a spirit run and ended up with 5 litres at 40%.

I can drink it no problem at all and rate it above the cheaper bourbons from the bottlo.

Kingy, I assume you are flavouring the nuetrel with bourbon essence? Or oaking it?

[kingy]

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Kingy, I assume you are flavouring the nuetrel with bourbon essence? Or oaking it?[/quote]

Yea I flavored 2 litres with essence and Oaked 2 litres. Ended up blending them.

Can't wait till me kegs full of stripped uj to run through tho to compare.