Jonnie Walker Blue

[Aussiedownunder01]

I have a friend who is septicle yes septicle [you know what they are full of 8-} ]
About our hobby he sais when you can make better that jonnie walker blue I will sit up and listen
Ok how do I go about achieving that
All ideas welcome

[bt1]

More than achievable in late 2015 considering,

the Oak versions and understanding needed, two or more used timber types will take at least 6 months
blending needed
getting peating right
AG washes
the 15 + test runs
ageing time

Its a fair workload to go chase these goals.. I wouldn't take them on lightly.

good luck with it all

bt1

[crow]

Don't know If I'd bother trying to impress someone who wants ya to produce a $250 bottle anyway but.... Thing is this whisky is blended and some of those they blend with are very very old (40+yrs old) . Due to the blending there are a whole bunch of different grain bills,malts, yeasts,peats, age time. and oak times/methods/locations . Blended whisky's are not so much simply the skill of a given brewer or stiller but down to the skill of the blend as to what flavours and characteristics will complement each other in what doses. I short I would not accept the challenge any blended whisky,good or bad as i think it would be virtually imposable to clone without likewise making 6 or 8 completely different whiskys and then farting around to find the right amounts of each given constituent :teasing-blah: . What you can for certain do is so a single malt and some grain whiskies, age and then blend to your taste and very likely end up with a product as good or better than the high end blended whiskys
Edit posted same time as bt1

[Zak Griffin]

My single run, unaged cornflakes whiskey tastes better than Johnny Blue, but then I can't stand the smell of scotch, let alone the flavour.

Is Blue Label your mates standard drink? I wouldn't get too concerned about trying to please him haha

[Aussiedownunder01]

Cool wont bother just take him a few samples of different stuff if he likes it good if not tuff

[Zak Griffin]

He's probably skeptical because he's only ever had turbo/essence homemade spirits... I know that this is the case with everyone around here. I'm the first person in town to ever use a pot still..

[Smbjk]

Jonnywalker blue hey. My 6th month mcwhisky is freaking awesome and I'm hard pressed to find something as nice :handgestures-thumbupleft: sounds like your mate has a little blue envy of this hobby and maybe just maybe he wishes he could brew spirits :D how bout good old "well done mate your spirits are bloddy awesome :handgestures-thumbupleft: " give him some mcwhisky pretty sure a drop of that will silence all critics ;-)

[bt1]

Good move aussie...

crow's comments on blending really do highlight the complexity here.

If I had to suggest what we can do best or better:
Single cask/batch
Why blend? when we can highlight the single batch variations as a positive.
Higher quality, reduced tails...a luxury they don't have on 1000 to 10,000lt batches :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Really precise washes, harnessing quality grains and specific flavours...How many commercials throw 10 - 20% specialist more expensive cara and crystal malts at a wash...not many.
Airing/ageing/timber rate/agitation/accelerated heat changes methods to achieve drinkable status in much earlier timeframes than traditional...

In fact here's a prediction from bt...with guys like Doc and many others focusing on these micro techniques years ageing for spirits will become a semi redundant issue in spirit selection over the next decade. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Reckon there will be other more objective measures to take it's place like maybe phenol counts, ethanol purity, esters measures.

Imagine this..customer: "hi I'm a tourist and new here..my drink pref is 95% purity, ester count x and phenol count under y"...

Distiller/winemaker: "Well we've got this range which suits your tastes perfectly"

It may even be driven by a legal requirement to better define contents as applies to the wider food industry

Look forward to that day!
bt1

[Brendan]

What are your mates hobbies??

If he likes cars for example, and shows off some new commodore...the equivalent would be you saying: "What a joke, and cars are your hobby...I'll sit up and listen when you get a McLaren F1" :handgestures-thumbdown:

[MacStill]

What are your mates hobbies??

If he likes cars for example, and shows off some new commodore...the equivalent would be you saying: "What a joke, and cars are your hobby...I'll sit up and listen when you get a McLaren F1" :handgestures-thumbdown:

That's what I thought too, tell him to get stuffed next time he comes to your home, make him spend the $250 and tell him to drink the shit because he's getting none of yours :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[Bushy]

Get hold of Hilly. His stuff is the ducks. Maybe even Mac in six or twelve months. ;-)

[Smbjk]

What are your mates hobbies??

If he likes cars for example, and shows off some new commodore...the equivalent would be you saying: "What a joke, and cars are your hobby...I'll sit up and listen when you get a McLaren F1" :handgestures-thumbdown:

That's what I thought too, tell him to get stuffed next time he comes to your home, make him spend the $250 and tell him to drink the shit because he's getting none of yours :handgestures-thumbupleft:

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