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by warramungas » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:39 pm
Flavour seems lacking. No matter how I run it.
Last lot of white dog tasted like commercial white dog but I think its time for a change of pace to see if there's any difference.
Where has all the corn flavour gone!!!
Cheers.
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by bluc » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:03 pm
Maybe you should full reflux shorter and push harder to get where you want to be. I am still amazed how much flavour my rum has.
My corn whiskey still aint there but I think an endless ferment will get closer to where I want to be and maybe pushing further into tails will help also :-B
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by RC Al » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:32 pm
Have you tried using less sugar in your washes? From what I've read, it's one way of increasing flavour
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by warramungas » Mon Apr 02, 2018 11:26 am
RC Al wrote:Have you tried using less sugar in your washes? From what I've read, it's one way of increasing flavour
Nope. But I've been tempted to stir the bejeezus out of it when it finished fermenting and allow to sit over night before siphoning off the liquid full of fine particles to see if that made a difference. Haven't tried it though.
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by tipsy » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:22 pm
bluc wrote:Maybe you should full reflux shorter and push harder to get where you want to be. I am still amazed how much flavour my rum has.
My corn whiskey still aint there but I think an endless ferment will get closer to where I want to be and maybe pushing further into tails will help also :-B
This is my problem too. Rum on 4 plates = flavour galore....3 plates with corn sugar heads = meh
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by Dig Brinker » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:09 pm
Are you guys just using corn flakes? I add a tin of liquid malt & some rye and get plenty of flavour. I used pumpernickel bread in my first one for the rye.
Warra, if it tastes like commercial white dog, how much more flavour are you trying to get? Sounds like you’ve got it right. Not quite sure what you’re trying to achieve...
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by bluc » Wed Apr 11, 2018 1:11 pm
Think he means when his is aged it tastes like comercial white dog..
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by warramungas » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:33 pm
I mean i bought a 'jar' of commercial American white dog and it tastes like neutral pretty much. Cant remember the brand.
Compare it to my cuts and they're similar though more bite in the commercial stuff. No real flavour and i presume there should be something there.
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by Plumby » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:44 pm
Silly question probably but did you use name brand corn flakes or no name/homebrand?
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by EziTasting » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:46 pm
Plumby wrote:Silly question probably but did you use name brand corn flakes or no name/homebrand?
We used Kelogs the first time and nonage the second, made no difference to us... but we aren't CFW veterans as some here...
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by EziTasting » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:20 pm
Question about flavour comparison of CFW to a Real Corn Mash
OK, Opinions invited - don't want to start an argument, but if you know CFW well and have done some real corn mashes, how big a difference is there?
Is it worth messing about with corn? Particularily the squeezing of the mash to get all the juices out... ~x(
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by woodduck » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:25 pm
My personal taste and opinion on it is that cfw is much lighter in flavor than even a bwko let alone an ag but to me that's not a bad thing. I like it like that at times. It's a nice light refreshing drink with lemonade or soda on a hot day. I don't think you can make this recipe and think it's going to compare to an ag wash. I don't think, from what I've read you can even compare ag to a sugar head.
Just my take on it
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by bluc » Wed Apr 11, 2018 9:09 pm
Taste is completely different and a lot stronger because it is coming from grain sugar as opposed to cane sugar. Is there such a thing as dried corn sugar with flavour(not dextrose)?? Corn version of dme.. guess not otherwise most would use it..
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by TasSpirits » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:37 pm
Warra, try 3.5kg polenta and 4kg sugar, ferment with American whiskey yeast. Treat it like a cfw/ujssm. I've been using the polenta from the Dutch section at woollies, by gen 3 you should be getting a much stronger flavour, I use this with some mods to give my dominoes a bourbonish flavour before using them for other spirits. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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by warramungas » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:05 am
I thought about polenta but the price is pretty steep.
Be nice to get a 20kg bag of it cheaper.
Was also thinking of corn flour (fine grind in large quantity of water) with a pack of enzymes but corn flour in oz is usually made from wheat.
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by TasSpirits » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:20 am
warramungas wrote:I thought about polenta but the price is pretty steep.
Be nice to get a 20kg bag of it cheaper.
Was also thinking of corn flour (fine grind in large quantity of water) with a pack of enzymes but corn flour in oz is usually made from wheat.
I might try some corn flour next time, even have some enzymes lying about. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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by warramungas » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:26 pm
If ya do just check the ingredients list of the bag you're buying to make sure its made from corn or maize. Cant find it in the supermarket.
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by TasSpirits » Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:46 pm
warramungas wrote:If ya do just check the ingredients list of the bag you're buying to make sure its made from corn or maize. Cant find it in the supermarket.
The cornflour I use at work is pure maize flour, not to expensive, just need to figure out a filtration method :think:
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by skurvy84 » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:11 pm
Just stripped my 3rd gen of cfw and put down my 4th gen yesterday. Getting pretty excited about this actually. Keep finding my self opening my low wines vessel to have a sniff.
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by warramungas » Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:46 pm
TasSpirits wrote:warramungas wrote:If ya do just check the ingredients list of the bag you're buying to make sure its made from corn or maize. Cant find it in the supermarket.
The cornflour I use at work is pure maize flour, not to expensive, just need to figure out a filtration method :think:
With flour you should get really good conversion (if you throw a sachet of enzymes in there) but I wouldn't try to strain it. Just ferment on the grain then let it settle and syphon off when its finished.
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