All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby scythe » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:02 am

Because molassis varies so much you could probably look at the ingerdiant table from where you got the molassis, that should give you a closer rough estimate.
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby EziTasting » Sun Dec 18, 2016 9:32 am

Ah, yes good point! I do believe I have that info... somewhere in my emails...
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby TasSpirits » Sun Dec 18, 2016 10:26 am

I use 7L per 30L wash, I work out my molasses amount by Liters x 1.4/2 this gives me roughly 4.9kg of sugar and a wash of 9.6% in reality it is a little less. My molasses is 52% sugar and my yields have ben fairly consistent, off a 28L strip I get approx. 5.6L at 40%
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby EziTasting » Sun Dec 18, 2016 11:02 am

Iv only dabbled in molasses so far (to be fair); recently bought a 44Gal drum so I can get a lot more serious with it!

Had previously followed MacRum then then had a play with Buccaneer Bobs versions n (ingredients were the same, process was different), but wanted to get into it now that summer is here!!!

First will find the email with the 'reported' list of whats in there...
Thanx Tas for your explanation, makes a lot of sense!
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby viking » Sun Dec 18, 2016 5:14 pm

Ezi,
Where did you source the 44Gal drum of mollases from? I've been looking, but haven't found a source.
Cheers
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby bluc » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:45 pm

EziTasting wrote:Iv only dabbled in molasses so far (to be fair); recently bought a 44Gal drum so I can get a lot more serious with it!

Had previously followed MacRum then then had a play with Buccaneer Bobs versions n (ingredients were the same, process was different), but wanted to get into it now that summer is here!!!

First will find the email with the 'reported' list of whats in there...
Thanx Tas for your explanation, makes a lot of sense!

Sweet hope the group buy goes ahead over here i want 200l to play with to. Otherwise i will be heading to my local first week in january.. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby EziTasting » Sun Dec 18, 2016 6:56 pm

viking wrote:Ezi,
Where did you source the 44Gal drum of mollases from? I've been looking, but haven't found a source.
Cheers


Mate theres a couple down in Perth area,
Stockfeed West - 08 9250 1964, spoke to Bill;
Landmark (ex Perth) - I spoke to Jessica & Lachlan (both from Broome);
City Live Stock - 727 Gnangara Road Lexia WA;
I have received some information that may be helpful for a West Australian cousins. You can buy the 14kg pails of Bundaberg Refinery Molasses at PFD Food Services on 08 94110500. If you have any problems talk to the W.A. Bundaberg Rep., Ken Allister on 0418857559.

Don't be afraid to do a search ("Search our Site") at the top of this page, I just collated this info because I've been wanting to do this for a while...

Also found the ... MSDS (?!?!) of the molasses I bought:
Molasses MSDS.pdf


This also has a couple of contacts on it... haha supplier and another stockfeed...
enjoy
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby coffe addict » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:38 pm

I do rum in a 44 with 45/50L of molasses and around 25L of dunder. I save and reuse all tails in the next run heads are used as cleaner or weed killer. :obscene-drinkingchug:
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby warramungas » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:56 pm

EziTasting wrote:
viking wrote:Ezi,
Where did you source the 44Gal drum of mollases from? I've been looking, but haven't found a source.
Cheers


Mate theres a couple down in Perth area,
Stockfeed West - 08 9250 1964, spoke to Bill;
Landmark (ex Perth) - I spoke to Jessica & Lachlan (both from Broome);
City Live Stock - 727 Gnangara Road Lexia WA;
I have received some information that may be helpful for a West Australian cousins. You can buy the 14kg pails of Bundaberg Refinery Molasses at PFD Food Services on 08 94110500. If you have any problems talk to the W.A. Bundaberg Rep., Ken Allister on 0418857559.

Don't be afraid to do a search ("Search our Site") at the top of this page, I just collated this info because I've been wanting to do this for a while...

Also found the ... MSDS (?!?!) of the molasses I bought:
Molasses MSDS.pdf


This also has a couple of contacts on it... haha supplier and another stockfeed...
enjoy


City livestock where I bought mine (mate picked it up and transported it for me) cost about $35 for a 20 liter drum. Take your own container. Mine was an old HCl square drum.
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby EziTasting » Tue Dec 20, 2016 12:04 am

Lol warra, got that info from you!
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby wynnum1 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:22 am

Molasses has unfermentable sugars if you do a search "dextran in molasses" that the dextran is created by lactic acid bacteria and that if the cane is burnt and not crushed quickly the dextran increases .
Lactic acid bacteria if it converts sugar to dextran can your stored molasses get infected and become less fermentable .
The sugar mills can add a small amount of enzyme to convert the dextran back to sugar .


The most common species found in the sugar factory is Leuconostoc mesenleroideJ . Dextrans are formed by the breakdown of sucrose in a manner similar to enzymatic inversion., except the glucose portion of the sucrose molecule is linked into a growing molecular chain (dextran) rather than released.
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby rumdidlydum » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:46 am

Great info wynnum1 :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby EziTasting » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:48 pm

Did the report mention 'which' enzyme to use to reverser the creation of these dextrans?!?!
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby wynnum1 » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:33 am

dextranase l "amano"
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby dans.brew » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:00 pm

Thought id give an All Molasses a go this year for my rum. Finally got time to put a wash down this arvo. Just used..
22 ltrs of feed grade molasses
3 tsp of DAP
1 tsp of Epsom salt
200gms of bakers yeast
Topped to 90ltrs
The nights are cooling off a lot here now so wrapped fermenter in a electric blanket to keep temp around 35 deg. Its bubbling away very nicely atm... oh, the sg was 1.125
Didn't end up clarifying either... thought that might be next times experiment.
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby bluc » Sun Mar 08, 2020 10:09 pm

Yuuuum :D
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby dans.brew » Mon Mar 09, 2020 10:42 am

bluc wrote:Yuuuum :D

Heres hoping! :D
Had a look at it this morn and it was sitting at solid 36 degs and it was fizzing away like mad. If i had an airlock it would be going nuts...anyway just what ya need for a good rum ferment.
Looking forward to comparing it to a Macrum. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby Nathan02 » Mon Mar 09, 2020 7:48 pm

Been making mollases only rum for 2 years now. Flavour bomb comin your way dan.
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby dans.brew » Mon Mar 09, 2020 8:13 pm

Yeah im hoping thats the case. :dance:
My previous rum (with sugar) last summer was sorta lacking a bit of ruminess.. it is getting better with age on oak as you'd expect, but id love to get a bit more body in there from the start.
If the smell in the shed is anything to go by she'll be the goods!
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Re: All Mollases Rum (no sugar added)

Postby Bobsyauncle » Sun May 31, 2020 10:29 pm

dans.brew wrote:Yeah im hoping thats the case. :dance:
My previous rum (with sugar) last summer was sorta lacking a bit of ruminess.. it is getting better with age on oak as you'd expect, but id love to get a bit more body in there from the start.
If the smell in the shed is anything to go by she'll be the goods!


Hey mate, how did your run go?
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