Rum Recipe Discussion

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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby rumpirate » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:07 am

Hey guys,
Just started a 50L ferment yesterday and my question is if I run through 5 generations at 50L at a time, how much a) low wines will I accumulate and b) how much spirit?
Obviously more the better but I'm just trying to plan ahead on how much glassware I'll need to scrounge up.
Cheers :text-thankyoublue:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Crusty » Wed Jul 22, 2015 3:11 pm

rumpirate wrote:Hey guys,
Just started a 50L ferment yesterday and my question is if I run through 5 generations at 50L at a time, how much a) low wines will I accumulate and b) how much spirit?
Obviously more the better but I'm just trying to plan ahead on how much glassware I'll need to scrounge up.
Cheers :text-thankyoublue:


I'm only new to all this & I'm on my 4th Gen Rum in the fermenter. I had a slight hiccup with fermentation this time round & the previous 3 ferments began to ferment at the 3hr mark. I followed the recipe & instructions to the tee & added 5lt of dunder to each ferment. This time round though, no ferment activity whatsoever. 12hrs later & still nothing so I just added the required yeast & within the hour, it was away. I'm not sure what happened but for some reason, the yeast must of carked it. As for your question, I add 30lt into my 50lt boiler & run it pretty hard for the stripping runs. Collecting down to 20%, I get anywhere from 6.5lt to 7.5lt of low wines @40% from the original 30lt charge. As far as drinking quality cut product, I have no idea as I'm not there just yet but this last 30lt wash will give me enough low wines to do the product run. I'm hoping to get 5lt of quality product but I'm only guessing really.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby 7evan » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:22 pm

My very 'general' rule of thumb is a yield of 10% hearts of wash volume at 40% alcohol.
For example if you have a 30L wash, the final hearts cut will be 3L at 40%abv.
Hope that makes sense. :think:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Sam. » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:26 pm

rumpirate wrote:Hey guys,
Just started a 50L ferment yesterday and my question is if I run through 5 generations at 50L at a time, how much a) low wines will I accumulate and b) how much spirit?
Obviously more the better but I'm just trying to plan ahead on how much glassware I'll need to scrounge up.
Cheers :text-thankyoublue:


Lots of variables but I would reckon you will end up with near 10L @ 65% for aging.

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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby rumpirate » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:18 am

Righto that's a relief. I thought I may have storage issues for a while there. The wife wasn't too keen on a 200L barrel in the living room. Dunno why?! %-(
Thanks again
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:13 pm

rumpirate wrote:Hey guys,
Just started a 50L ferment yesterday and my question is if I run through 5 generations at 50L at a time, how much a) low wines will I accumulate and b) how much spirit?
Obviously more the better but I'm just trying to plan ahead on how much glassware I'll need to scrounge up.
Cheers :text-thankyoublue:

Out of 46l of wash I ended up with 10L low wines and ~3.2l at 65% final product after cuts
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Pete8686 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:36 pm

Shit, I must be taking too much. I end up with about 4l of 65% per 50l wash
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:04 pm

or maybe im to harsh on cuts but god its friggin good stuff even after only 4ish weeks on oak :handgestures-thumbupleft: im only a newb and have only done two washs so far so dont take what i say as gospel...
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby 7evan » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:21 pm

Pete8686 wrote:Shit, I must be taking too much. I end up with about 4l of 65% per 50l wash


That works out to 6.5L at 40%abv.
Bit over 10% of wash volume but if you aren't getting hangovers or drinking wet dog tasting alcohol then tip top. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Pete8686 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:40 pm

Dunno if its my still or the way I run it but I identify my hearts, then take last jar of heads and first of tails (for my rum) to add flavour, otherwise it seems a bit plain. No wet dog just a nice molasses flavour on the backend. Wont really know how flavour is until it has been ageing for a few months
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby pochine » Wed Aug 05, 2015 3:49 pm

Okay, i have tried this recipe about 8 times now and the first run goes amazing abd i get about 7 lts of low wines per 40lt stripping run.

However, whenever 8 start to add dunder my output reduces on the second gen and even stopped on my third. I sounds to me that my ph level is getting to high. I dont have a ph meter. I am plann8nh on buying one soon.

When when i started with this recipe i fermented in 40 lt drums. Bow i am using 200lt drums. So the question is. Do you think i am right about the ph level and how much calcium carbonate does everyone add per lt? I bought a 100g bad from the brew shop and it did nothing.

I would like to keep my generatio s going. Also what ph meter would you suggest?

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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Thu Aug 06, 2015 11:44 am

Wondering how low you go with your strip run I got 6l low wines from 25l ferment...Never done generations so cant help with the other stuff.But am interested in replies for something I may have to do myself.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Pete8686 » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:08 pm

I think the general consensus is about 20% bluc, thats what I follow anyway think I read it here somewhere. I have a question for the rum vets, when does rum start getting 'rummy'? I have some 234 gen been on oak about a month and first gen 2 months old. The rummy flavour is yet to come across, its at the point where oak is dominant (color is a ruby gold as expected). Can still taste molasses on the back end but not very rummy yet
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Zak Griffin » Thu Aug 06, 2015 6:39 pm

By 'rummy', do you mean 'like Bundy''?
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Pete8686 » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:03 pm

Ive only ever had bacardi and bundy, that buttery rum flavour. I dont really have much to go off lol
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:10 pm

i have been wondering what the "rummy" flavour is to. Bit worried bout doing gens with dunder in case it adds flavours i dont like.

After 6 weeks on french oak mine at 65% is like a rum liquor, thick and velvety texture and has a heavy mollases, with a hint of vanilla flavour that lingers.
It kind off reminds me of bundy, but bundy that has had the intial throat burn harsh alcohol taste and wicked next day headace removed :laughing-rolling: up till few weeks ago i never thought i would find something i like better than bundy. Mac your a legend :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby rumdidlydum » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:15 pm

You mean that Additives, chemicals, heads and tails buttery flavour?
What you are making now is cleaner than they make with no artifical flavouring.
Try some vanilla bean or make some caramel to see what you are happy with.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Zak Griffin » Thu Aug 06, 2015 7:59 pm

I don't know what Macrum tastes like but I know it's fucking delicious!
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Pete8686 » Thu Aug 06, 2015 8:47 pm

Had another taste test tonight :obscene-drinkingdrunk: , it certainly is nice. I think my taste buds were tainted by bundy and I was expecting something else. The more I drink it the more I like it though :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby MacStill » Thu Aug 06, 2015 9:00 pm

Zak Griffin wrote:I don't know what Macrum tastes like but I know it's fucking delicious!


on my 3rd and agree about the delicious bit :teasing-neener:
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