Rum Recipe Discussion

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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:34 pm

Was going to use butter but worried about flavour carry over and cleaning rancid crap put of the boiler :puke-huge:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby EziTasting » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:41 pm

bluc wrote:Was going to use butter but worried about flavour carry over and cleaning rancid crap put of the boiler :puke-huge:



:laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: we've "High-5'd" our faces the other day - cleaning the bubbler and stuff on a regular basis but have never cleaned the boiler other than hosing it out... I've noticed a kind of burnt flavour in our latest products which led me on boiler cleaning journey - Costic soda (nasty stuff) followed by vinegar wash followed by a comprehensive hose out when I noticed, right up top in the hardest place to reach, this layer of scum.Greasy like scum!

So we've gotten a family member with thin arms in to clean it out... didn't smell like butter, tho!

When we used the butter, there was a hint of a buttery smell but I couldn't taste it...
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:49 pm

I will get brave and try it one day. If nothing else just to set my mind at rest Just got turned off after i made a whiskey that tasted like garden hose from water from a "no taste" drinking water hose and a rum that tastes like bran oil from an antifoam attempt with rice bran oil... Stuff i bought is silicone based.. you would need real skinny arms to get into my boiler still has standard 2" keg fitting :D
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby vqstatesman » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:38 pm

Silicon antifoam is the bomb. I fill my boilers to about 85% capacity with no problems. Butter and oil never worked for me.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:52 pm

I like your sig 50l milk can for small runs :scared-eek:
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby orcy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:08 pm

I had my first spew from a rum today. Interestingly it was the third 50L batch out of my 200L fermenter. Dropping the power to 50 percent fixed it.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Nathan02 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:25 pm

Hey guys whats the rules around running this twice. Anyone ran through a detuned boka once and aged? Cheers
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:28 pm

No rules but strong guidlines. If in pot mode you should distill twice and do cuts...
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby orcy » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:36 pm

Through a pot you will struggle to get the abv you want with a single pass. Nearly all commercial spirits are distilled twice.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Nathan02 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:07 pm

Came out low off my boka. 70% starting abv. Second run with it just in the process of taming her
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:11 pm

Is that single run? And is it unpaked? Double run on an unpacked pot still it starts about 82%. After cuts before watering down i normally get 75%..
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Nathan02 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:20 pm

Yeah sure is mate its 1.2m column height unpacked
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby Nathan02 » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:21 pm

And yes single run. I sourced my mollases from little mountaun produce in caloundra. Have you found a good source on the coast?
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:25 pm

Gympie feed barn. Stuff is alive when you get it. Cant keep it in a sealed container. Hasnt failed me yet! They also do cracked corn etc. Pretty sure comes from isis mill marybourgh..
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby vossy » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:04 am

Hey Legends,
So I have 2 x 25l fermenters, on 4th generation for both. Have been away for a few weeks and ran them both this morning. Ph was about 3.2 on both
First one produced about 400ml of cloudy and thats it as it was at 96 deg after that.
Second one puked, first time ever, I removed about 8L from boiler and ran again, same result.
So what now?
A. Do I let them cool through them back in on the dunder adjust Ph and hope they ferment?
B. Add hot slops to new molasses and sugar and add back
C. Discard everything and start again??

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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:15 am

Cloudy one sounds stuck. One that puked may be finished but did you try running the one that's puking slower? I find my rum normally finish's at 1.02 on the hydrometer even though its not an accurate reading its a pretty good indication to me that its finished.. Sorry just saw your refluxing it can't help with that sorry..
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby vossy » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:25 am

So the same thing happened with the second one bout 500ml cloudy then off at 96 deg.
Nope not refluxing, I just remove packing and no cooling on the reflux...my crappy version of stripping mode, worked so far.
Haven't checked SG yet.
But what is the way ahead from here
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby bluc » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:34 am

Could be ph problem i have never recoverd a wash after heating it. But if fresh yeast is added cant see it being a problem. You reakon its tails cloudy or puke cloudy....http://aussiedistiller.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=11307
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby vossy » Sat Oct 14, 2017 10:55 am

I reckon tails cloudy as the first one didn't puke.
I am going to let it cool, add it back, adjust PH if no activity by tomorrow, add some yeast and see how that goes, nothing really to loose.
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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

Postby EziTasting » Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:10 pm

vossy wrote:I reckon tails cloudy as the first one didn't puke.
I am going to let it cool, add it back, adjust PH if no activity by tomorrow, add some yeast and see how that goes, nothing really to loose.


You’ll need to add new yeast, the original was cooked - 96*C...
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