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Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:56 pm
by bluc
Weird have thought rum was manky early on but the molasses i got this year seems heaps better ot maybe its because its breathing better in my barrel. But early rum like 6 weeks old early is really nice. Very little mank.. :think: :dance:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 8:58 pm
by TasSpirits
bluc wrote:Weird have thought rum was manky early on but the molasses i got this year seems heaps better ot maybe its because its breathing better in my barrel. But early rum like 6 weeks old early is really nice. Very little mank.. :think: :dance:

Half your luck I've had nothing but dramas, major puking like nothing I've ever seen, same molasses. :think:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:07 pm
by bluc
Yea mine always puke even as low as 150v. ..

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:17 pm
by Rush006
bluc wrote:Yea mine always puke even as low as 150v. ..

Get a bigger boiler :scared-eek:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:27 pm
by Rush006
I agree, all my other rum I have made needed 3 months before it even tasted like rum. now this lot of 100% molasses tastes great in 1 month. I only did a full molasses because I thought my stuff was getting old and probably loosing its fermentable sugars as it was off gassing a bit in the drum. turns out to be my best rum yet. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

I tasted some of my other stuff and it is not a pinch on this 100% stuff. I need to buy another big boiling pot to continue my experimentation. :-B
The other thing I did different(just remembered) I put 20grams of oak chips in and pulled them out when the rum was nice and dark. before then i had always used staves. so it was only in for a month. Have a nice rich dark rum colour.

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:32 pm
by EziTasting
Sounds like a ripper!

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:40 pm
by bluc
Rush006 wrote:
bluc wrote:Yea mine always puke even as low as 150v. ..

Get a bigger boiler :scared-eek:

Dont get me started :violence-stickwhack:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:48 pm
by Rush006
:laughing-rolling:
bluc wrote:
Rush006 wrote:
bluc wrote:Yea mine always puke even as low as 150v. ..

Get a bigger boiler :scared-eek:

Dont get me started :violence-stickwhack:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 6:42 pm
by TasSpirits
Leaving the wash to settle for 2 weeks has solved my puking problem, currently running 1 x 2400w element at 75%, distillate is coming of at 17.3' through 4 plates, charge is 30L fresh wash and 15L low wines. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:10 pm
by EziTasting
Dint get me wrong, but I don't have a 'Controller' and I don't get pukes, not regularly not often ... I think I've had 3 in total to date ... all on rums...
Keg Boiler, I usually fill 45-48L in there, turn the heat on on both elements and when it boils I unplug the top element...

To overcome I have done one thing and one thing only, return it back to 100% reflux for 10-15 mins and then keep going.

On the advice of a friend, who mentioned that I fill the boiler too much, he suggested I use the pipe for my packed section as a spacer... because I don't have any other spacers...

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:15 pm
by TasSpirits
My pukes were so bad it was making it through all plates and the Rc in a mater of seconds, never seen anything like it in 18 years. Must be the molasses, AG whisky pukes, but not like this :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:17 pm
by bluc
I thought i fixed mine by leaving it 2weeks but my last one puked to :angry-banghead: .
I am gunna try some butter in a run see what it does and if flavour carries over..

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:20 pm
by TasSpirits
bluc wrote:I thought i fixed mine by leaving it 2weeks but my last one puked to :angry-banghead: .
I am gunna try some butter in a run see what it does and if flavour carries over..

Try grape seed oil, very neutral, I've never noticed any flavour carry over. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:22 pm
by bluc
In a pot or bubbler?

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:26 pm
by EziTasting
TasSpirits wrote:My pukes were so bad it was making it through all plates and the Rc in a mater of seconds, never seen anything like it in 18 years. :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Hah, mine made it thru but only because I wasn't transfixed by the bubbles anymore ( :crying-blue: sad but its not the attraction it once was (-| ) BUT when the sound changes, I'm all over it like fly-on-stink! unfortunately by then its almost into the parrot...

but then again, I've had, what 3 pukes in 18 months... BFD! :teasing-neener: lol... I have bought a 44Gal drum of molasses, so my Rum-action will drastically increase. Perhaps I will eat my words soon... :think:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:26 pm
by EziTasting
TasSpirits wrote:
bluc wrote:I thought i fixed mine by leaving it 2weeks but my last one puked to :angry-banghead: .
I am gunna try some butter in a run see what it does and if flavour carries over..

Try grape seed oil, very neutral, I've never noticed any flavour carry over. :handgestures-thumbupleft:


I have tried coconut oil ...

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:30 pm
by TasSpirits
bluc wrote:In a pot or bubbler?

Bubbler :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:32 pm
by rumsponge
I normally run 40-45L of rum wash in a 50L keg and had pukes twice only (out of 20 runs perhaps). Always on the warm up phase just before it reaches boil (prob too much heat), but I was always able to stop it on the first plate (unplug one element and reduce power to the second by 50%). Reflux for 10-20 min and all the gunk is down in the boiler. From then on no more problems. I use a table spoon of olive oil, cant really detect any carry over either.
cheers, rs

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 8:48 pm
by TasSpirits
rumsponge wrote:I normally run 40-45L of rum wash in a 50L keg and had pukes twice only (out of 20 runs perhaps). Always on the warm up phase just before it reaches boil (prob too much heat), but I was always able to stop it on the first plate (unplug one element and reduce power to the second by 50%). Reflux for 10-20 min and all the gunk is down in the boiler. From then on no more problems. I use a table spoon of olive oil, cant really detect any carry over either.
cheers, rs

Must be the different Molasses, that's the only thing I can think of. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Rum Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:47 pm
by coffe addict
Hey tas, when did you get the molasses and from where? Reason I ask is a while back I filled a 209L drum from a stockfeed place which I had for around 6 months before I stated using it. When I got to the bottom it had a layer about 6inch deep of crud. If where you got it from doesn't have high turnover you might be buying all the crud that settles out of suspension drastically increasing the unfermentables and chance of puking...
On the plus side if they have low turn over but you happen to buy some just after farmer Joe then you likely get a much cleaner molasses.