Great Gin Recipe Discussion

This area is for recipes that are not yet proven, use this area for experiments, recipe research and development of your own variations. Once a recipe is accepted as being good by the consensus it will be moved to the proven section.

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby TheMechwarrior » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:13 am

You can use fresh if you have it available.
As a substitute for dried peel, Four Pillars use whole Australian oranges.
TheMechwarrior
 
Posts: 1007
Joined: Mon Dec 05, 2011 1:43 pm
Location: Tasmania
equipment: Five Star Distilling 6" neutraliser with
100L boiler

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby MacStill » Thu Sep 11, 2014 9:59 am

Mech!

There's a PM I sent you some days ago that remains unread, it would be nice if you could at least read it.... no response is required, but you could at least be courteous enough to read it. ;-)
MacStill
Lifetime Member
 
Posts: 16835
Joined: Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:40 pm
Location: Wide Bay QLD
equipment: Anything I choose :P

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby the Doctor » Thu Sep 11, 2014 8:41 pm

Sinerjee wrote:Are all the herbs and spices that go in to this dried? Obviously citrus peels will be fresh but for things like the ginger and dill?

Cheers

We use a combination of both fresh and dried citrus peel, as they impart very different attributes. Some of the rarer varieties like Sicilian Bitter Orange and Cuaracao are only available dried.
Doc
the Doctor
 
Posts: 612
Joined: Mon May 06, 2013 8:14 pm
equipment: 6 plate bubble cap, grain brewery

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Frothwizard » Fri Sep 12, 2014 1:15 am

Well the nutritionist told the Mrs she's not allowed to drink anything that's directly fermented...so she's started a Gin habit.

Just ordered all the necessary botanicals online.

@Mac - Finally got to try out that copper today and it packs in there so nicely. So much better than the crappy scrubbers I was using. The neutral was good before, A+ now! Perfectly timed for this recipe.
Frothwizard
 
Posts: 418
Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 5:25 am
equipment: - Airstill
- FSD 4" 5 Plate Bubbler w/ Packed Section
- 50L Keg Boiler w/ 2 x 2400W Weldless Elements

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby JDB » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:02 pm

So I ran this for the first time, with the botanicals in a mesh container in the unpacked section of my 2" bokka still, no and ideal setup but all I have. I ran it a little slow, collecting at about 65%. End result was quite nice, with a big changes from start to end, with the nice citrus notes in the first few jars, then transitioning to a heavy/strong gin for most of the run. Think I ran it to slow, resulting in lots of oils falling down into the boiler and really upping the oily (Juniper?) flavours later in the run. Going to have another crack, but with more citrus and just run flat out. Lucky I like strong gins, and now have huge jars of botanicals to play with!
JDB
 
Posts: 18
Joined: Sat May 18, 2013 4:16 pm
equipment: McStill 2" Bokka
Heaps of beer making stuff

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby bt1 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:28 pm

Love the sound of success!

consider running different botanicals mix, then blending different front end cuts with the same base = multiple Gins from same runs.

Good luck and enjoy!
bt1
bt1
 
Posts: 2448
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 am
Location: Adelaide
equipment: 2 x Glass Bubblers, 5 plate 89mm & 6 plate 110mm
4" 6 plate copper bubbler, 500mm copper packed section
Several pots, custom boiler
14 keg rotating brew setup, fermentation & dispenser fridges.

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby dogbreath vodka » Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:24 am

Just a quick question Bt1
How much rose petal were you using in the recipe?

Did it make much of an impression?
I've been drinking Traders Gin and the rose is dominant,,,, I like it.
So am trying to do similar but with the rose not so prominent.

DBV
dogbreath vodka
 
Posts: 1396
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:10 pm
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
equipment: "Steampunk 2 - 6" Bubble cap
"Jimmy" the 4" Carter head

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby RefluxEd » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:24 am

dogbreath vodka wrote:Just a quick question Bt1
How much rose petal were you using in the recipe?

Did it make much of an impression?
I've been drinking Traders Gin and the rose is dominant,,,, I like it.
So am trying to do similar but with the rose not so prominent.

DBV

I do gin using 92% clean spirit diluted back to 40% and run it through a 2 inch column that expands to 4 inch where the dilly bag full of botanicals sit.
For the rose I use whole rosebuds bought from a local Indian grocery. For a 45 litre batch I use 3g of buds which works out to 6 buds.The rose flavours must be heavy oils because they come through last when the ABV gets below 30% You start tasting the rose at 30% and it ramps up to strong rose around 22% and then gets watery and doesn't taste so good at 15%.
It's best to do cuts from 30% and blend in the rose portion afterward. Most people that try the final product cannot distinguish it from a Hendricks gin. The girls really love the perfume. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
RefluxEd
 
Posts: 110
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:20 pm
Location: Victoria
equipment: 2 inch BOKA/LM/VM over 8 4x3x4 inch bubble plates + 1 bubble plate under a 4 inch section under the dephlagmator (RC).
2 inch Pot still.
2 inch to 4 inch Gin head.
2x 1.2 mtre Leibig condensors.
2 inch x 800 mm shotgun condenser.

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby P3T3rPan » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:37 am

RefluxEd wrote:
dogbreath vodka wrote:Just a quick question Bt1
How much rose petal were you using in the recipe?

Did it make much of an impression?
I've been drinking Traders Gin and the rose is dominant,,,, I like it.
So am trying to do similar but with the rose not so prominent.

DBV

I do gin using 92% clean spirit diluted back to 40% and run it through a 2 inch column that expands to 4 inch where the dilly bag full of botanicals sit.
For the rose I use whole rosebuds bought from a local Indian grocery. For a 45 litre batch I use 3g of buds which works out to 6 buds.The rose flavours must be heavy oils because they come through last when the ABV gets below 30% You start tasting the rose at 30% and it ramps up to strong rose around 22% and then gets watery and doesn't taste so good at 15%.
It's best to do cuts from 30% and blend in the rose portion afterward. Most people that try the final product cannot distinguish it from a Hendricks gin. The girls really love the perfume. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Are those fresh rose buds or dried please?
P3T3rPan
 
Posts: 435
Images: 0
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:34 am
Location: Wellington NZ
equipment: Self made 100mm copper,6 perforated plates plus packed section on 50L ss keg
60L fermenters. Offset Carter Head
3v beer rig

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby RefluxEd » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:42 am

Hi PeterPan,
Yes, dried rose buds from Hindustan Imports in Dandenong.
RefluxEd
 
Posts: 110
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:20 pm
Location: Victoria
equipment: 2 inch BOKA/LM/VM over 8 4x3x4 inch bubble plates + 1 bubble plate under a 4 inch section under the dephlagmator (RC).
2 inch Pot still.
2 inch to 4 inch Gin head.
2x 1.2 mtre Leibig condensors.
2 inch x 800 mm shotgun condenser.

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby P3T3rPan » Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:45 am

RefluxEd wrote:Hi PeterPan,
Yes, dried rose buds from Hindustan Imports in Dandenong.

Thank you
Has anyone tried fresh ?
Or is that a stupid idea ?
P3T3rPan
 
Posts: 435
Images: 0
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:34 am
Location: Wellington NZ
equipment: Self made 100mm copper,6 perforated plates plus packed section on 50L ss keg
60L fermenters. Offset Carter Head
3v beer rig

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby dogbreath vodka » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:19 am

Thanks Peter
I am looking at a run later in the week. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

DBV
dogbreath vodka
 
Posts: 1396
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:10 pm
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
equipment: "Steampunk 2 - 6" Bubble cap
"Jimmy" the 4" Carter head

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby bt1 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:59 am

Only ever use fresh...better preserves the sent and oils.

Give it a crack...

bt1
bt1
 
Posts: 2448
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 am
Location: Adelaide
equipment: 2 x Glass Bubblers, 5 plate 89mm & 6 plate 110mm
4" 6 plate copper bubbler, 500mm copper packed section
Several pots, custom boiler
14 keg rotating brew setup, fermentation & dispenser fridges.

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby P3T3rPan » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:13 pm

thanks BT1
That was how I was thinking but had to ask
P3T3rPan
 
Posts: 435
Images: 0
Joined: Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:34 am
Location: Wellington NZ
equipment: Self made 100mm copper,6 perforated plates plus packed section on 50L ss keg
60L fermenters. Offset Carter Head
3v beer rig

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby spoonjab » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:14 pm

I hope you are washing store bought roses as a mate of mine used to grow them and he was always spraying pesticides on them
spoonjab
 
Posts: 24
Joined: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:07 pm
Location: Brisbane
equipment: 2' pot
4' 8plate modular bubbler
Carter head

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby bt1 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:05 pm

Spraying roses...geez it's my back yard not a bloody factory...wtf is a spray for anyway?

cut the most fragrant little head up, dice the hell out of it chuck it in = Winner!

While you at it try these... they all work just avoid any tomcat pissed on ones... you can tell em a mile away :handgestures-thumbupleft:
lavender flowers blue just a few cos they dominate
Banksia stamens the Red Wattle Brush flowers... yeh those growing every where
Wattle flowers
wild plums, peppers, limes. Apple berries,Kurragong toasted seeds, Lemon myrtle, Pig face, native figs, Grevilleas, Hibiscus, macadamia nuts,Bluebells
Clover flowers
Sour Sobs for tart
mint leaves
lemon grass
lilly pilly 1 or 2 only
cappers/naturisms for peppery bite 1 leaf only

There you go...doubt any been sprayed but :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:

Gins aren't hard all it takes is a little effort :handgestures-thumbupleft:

bt1
bt1
 
Posts: 2448
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 am
Location: Adelaide
equipment: 2 x Glass Bubblers, 5 plate 89mm & 6 plate 110mm
4" 6 plate copper bubbler, 500mm copper packed section
Several pots, custom boiler
14 keg rotating brew setup, fermentation & dispenser fridges.

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Urrazeb » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:08 pm

I'm guessing bt1 has a nice pretty rose garden to pluck from.. Either that or he's nicking them from the organic granny down the street :laughing-rolling: :teasing-tease:

I've always thought dried botanicals increase in potency :think:
Urrazeb
 
Posts: 2340
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:42 am
Location: Perth
equipment: Column & pot

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby RefluxEd » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:18 pm

Urrazeb wrote:I'm guessing bt1 has a nice pretty rose garden to pluck from.. Either that or he's nicking them from the organic granny down the street :laughing-rolling: :teasing-tease:

I've always thought dried botanicals increase in potency :think:


That's always been the case with anything that I have dehydrated. The point about residues from chemical sprays is a good one. I'll cut my own rosebuds and dehydrate them. That's gotta be the best of both worlds. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
RefluxEd
 
Posts: 110
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:20 pm
Location: Victoria
equipment: 2 inch BOKA/LM/VM over 8 4x3x4 inch bubble plates + 1 bubble plate under a 4 inch section under the dephlagmator (RC).
2 inch Pot still.
2 inch to 4 inch Gin head.
2x 1.2 mtre Leibig condensors.
2 inch x 800 mm shotgun condenser.

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby bt1 » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:17 am

I've always thought dried botanicals increase in potency


True that, but if you got access to your own fresh why not...

btw this lot are all Aussie natives...
wild plums, peppers, limes. Apple berries,Kurragong toasted seeds, Lemon myrtle, Pig face, native figs, Grevilleas, Hibiscus, macadamia nuts,Bluebells

bt1
bt1
 
Posts: 2448
Joined: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:56 am
Location: Adelaide
equipment: 2 x Glass Bubblers, 5 plate 89mm & 6 plate 110mm
4" 6 plate copper bubbler, 500mm copper packed section
Several pots, custom boiler
14 keg rotating brew setup, fermentation & dispenser fridges.

Re: Great Gin Recipe Discussion

Postby Urrazeb » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:14 am

Nice!

Mind sharing the recipe? :pray:
Urrazeb
 
Posts: 2340
Joined: Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:42 am
Location: Perth
equipment: Column & pot

PreviousNext

Return to Recipe Development



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 28 guests

x