Rum Chat

This area is for recipes that are not yet proven, use this area for experiments, recipe research and development of your own variations. Once a recipe is accepted as being good by the consensus it will be moved to the proven section.

Re: Rum Chat

Postby scythe » Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:11 pm

That sounds sketchy.
Have you tried letting it settle for a few mins after it foams up.
Have heard some others do this for all grain but may not work for rum not sure.
scythe
 
Posts: 1756
Joined: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:34 am
Location: Central West NSW
equipment: Dreaming of a 4" bubbler

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Beerswimmer » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:41 am

Br00ksy wrote:https://spiritsjournal.klwines.com/klwinescom-spirits-blog/2014/2/5/rum-super-geekdom.html

Stalked the last 10 pages of this thread and read the above and im curious if theres a yeast out there that can withstand really low pH. Thus :-B fast tracking the bonding of alcohols produced by the yeast with acids to form esters
Is that what specialty rum yeasts do best?
Just be more resilient against acids?


Belle Saison and WY3711 handle low PH just fine. Look for brewers yeasts used in sour beers.
Beerswimmer
 
Posts: 134
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:32 am
Location: US of A
equipment: Pot only!!

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Br00ksy » Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:53 pm

:text-thankyoublue:
Ill have to check those puppies out
Br00ksy
 
Posts: 76
Joined: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:36 am
Location: Airlie Beach
equipment: "Foresight" Mac 4 SSG 50lt Keg boiler 2x 2400W elements
T500 with a basic pot still head

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Beerswimmer » Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:22 am

Stripping the first of 4 washes made of 30% molasses 70% water with bread yeast. I also sprinkled in some epsom salt and have a sack of seashells in each fermenter. Looking to refill my 5 gallon French oak barrel for a year.
Last edited by Beerswimmer on Wed Apr 15, 2020 3:24 am, edited 1 time in total.
Beerswimmer
 
Posts: 134
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:32 am
Location: US of A
equipment: Pot only!!

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Beerswimmer » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:49 pm

Stripped the 2nd wash today and got the 4th going. I'm trying something new to me. Usually I just mix all the low wines and run them, now with my thumper I have taken the first half of the strips into one carboy and the second half with the tails into the second. I'll be putting the first halves into the thumper for the spirit run hoping to get a better product. I also have some 2 year old dunder that's possibly going into the boiler but not sure where to use it?
Beerswimmer
 
Posts: 134
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:32 am
Location: US of A
equipment: Pot only!!

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Beerswimmer » Sat May 02, 2020 3:43 am

Finally got the chance to strip #3, 4 will be tomorrow :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Beerswimmer
 
Posts: 134
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:32 am
Location: US of A
equipment: Pot only!!

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Br00ksy » Sat May 02, 2020 10:46 am

Whats it smell like m8? :smile:
Br00ksy
 
Posts: 76
Joined: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:36 am
Location: Airlie Beach
equipment: "Foresight" Mac 4 SSG 50lt Keg boiler 2x 2400W elements
T500 with a basic pot still head

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Beerswimmer » Sun May 03, 2020 5:08 am

Br00ksy wrote:Whats it smell like m8? :smile:


Like banana bread with spices! Had a "little" puke today on strip 4 of 4, my collection carboy is black like Coke or an Espresso :)) Oh well, more flavor! Hopefully get to the spirit run Tuesday, make cuts and fill my barrel on Thursday.
Last edited by Beerswimmer on Sun May 03, 2020 5:09 am, edited 1 time in total.
Beerswimmer
 
Posts: 134
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:32 am
Location: US of A
equipment: Pot only!!

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Br00ksy » Sun May 03, 2020 10:18 am

That sounds delicious
:handgestures-thumbupleft:
Br00ksy
 
Posts: 76
Joined: Sun Dec 22, 2019 10:36 am
Location: Airlie Beach
equipment: "Foresight" Mac 4 SSG 50lt Keg boiler 2x 2400W elements
T500 with a basic pot still head

Re: Rum Chat

Postby CH3CH2OH » Fri May 08, 2020 2:27 pm

I have always been pretty tight on my cuts with my spirit runs, rum included. Lately I have been wondering about going a little deeper into the tails jars to "enhance" the flavor profile.

My process is a strip run through a pot configuration then spirit run on a 4 plate

I historically do not keep anything in the cut jars after the abv off the parrot starts to drop.

I would love to know what others are doing.

How deep do you guys go into your tails?
CH3CH2OH
 
Posts: 369
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:14 am
equipment: 4" copper 7 plate bubbler with packed section on a 50l boiler

Re: Rum Chat

Postby bluc » Fri May 08, 2020 2:47 pm

No tails for me or esters from late heads. I reakon its pretty bland off the still but develops awesome flavours in the barrel/demijohn..
bluc
 
Posts: 7702
Joined: Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:47 pm
Location: sunshine coast
equipment: 2" pot with 2" shotty 400mm long 5x 1/2" on a t500 boiler.
50l keg boiler 4" still mount 4" sight glass 1" drain..
4 plate 4" bubbler, 600mm packed section

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Beerswimmer » Sat May 09, 2020 5:51 am

No tails, they never go away. It'll always taste tailsy. You can go past the nasty tails into the sweetwater though. Use it for proofing down. I'll only use a little bit of the last late heads jar if it's going into a barrel where they will eventually go away.
Beerswimmer
 
Posts: 134
Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:32 am
Location: US of A
equipment: Pot only!!

Re: Rum Chat

Postby Sam. » Sat May 09, 2020 8:06 am

Yeah if your going to age on oak for a long time then you can get away with a bit more but if you go too wide it will never get “good” and do you want to risk that?

Also this is one of the magic parts of aged distilled spirits, every batch every location every still every cut etc will be slightly different, it’s up to the distiller to make the call :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Sam.
Site Admin
 
Posts: 10225
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:19 pm
Location: South Oz Straya
equipment: Original FSD 5 plate 4 inch modular bubbler SSG with hand crafted plates and parrot by Mac.
18 Gal boiler.
2 x 2400W elements and power controller.
.

Re: Rum Chat

Postby CH3CH2OH » Sat May 09, 2020 9:53 am

Thanks for the comments!
CH3CH2OH
 
Posts: 369
Joined: Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:14 am
equipment: 4" copper 7 plate bubbler with packed section on a 50l boiler

Re: Rum Chat

Postby EziTasting » Sat May 09, 2020 11:37 am

CH3CH2OH wrote: ... My process is a strip run through a pot configuration then spirit run on a 4 plate...


On brown spirits I used to do that, but it has been pointed out that if running a plated column, you're loosing too much of the 'good' stuff and that I would be better off doing a single run over 4 plates (my setup)... I am yet to do this as my experiment in rum has ground to a halt (lack of experience and "good quality" molasses), but I am more keen on making Whisky anyway...

So looking to mash malted Barley and do the whole AG thing to learn the process and then do single runs on my plated column.

Beerswimmer wrote:...You can go past the nasty tails into the sweetwater though...


This 'Sweet-water' has me very intrigued. I am yet to find it! is there a process or is it deep-deep-deep in the tails?!? :wtf: aaaaand, is it only in Rum or in all brown spirits?
EziTasting
 
Posts: 2062
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:15 pm
Location: FNWA
equipment: Newbie - Keg Boiler & 4" 4 plate glasser

Re: Rum Chat

Postby RC Al » Sat May 09, 2020 1:35 pm

All brown spirits ezi, the sweet water is -right- at the end below 10 off the still, next run, just keep going and keep making cuts even when you hit zero, just starting down this road myself with my sugar head corn mashes. The cardboard tails taste dose disappear down that low and your left pumping out sweet tasting "water" - next run i do, im going to see how much sweetwater can actually come out of a wash, I've only collected a few litres from a run at most so far and only used it sparingly. I have a run sitting in cut jars right now, I will have a more serious attempt at a blend with it this week, but i dont think i ran low enough (late night finish, as you do...), wash is still sitting in the boiler though...
RC Al
Mentor
 
Posts: 1078
Joined: Mon Oct 23, 2017 4:58 pm
Location: Sunshine Coast Area
equipment: Old SS Reflux
2" Potty on 50l keg Uber burner

Re: Rum Chat

Postby EziTasting » Sat May 09, 2020 2:05 pm

Cheers RC,
I will have a look at that next time.

I have a single run TS FFV in cut jars sitting in my outside drinks fridge... son has asked a couple of times now if he can have some for a catchup with his mates... :)) "No, Son, this isn't ready for your guys yet!"

I have a feints & Low Wines run and Rum Low Wines (and ancient FV) run to go ... but Im getting ready to do a Barley AG very soon, now that our summer temps are returning to the normal spectrum...
EziTasting
 
Posts: 2062
Joined: Fri Sep 25, 2015 5:15 pm
Location: FNWA
equipment: Newbie - Keg Boiler & 4" 4 plate glasser

Previous

Return to Recipe Development



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests

x