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Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:09 pm
by Squids
Hi, can anyone advise what wash temperature is best for standrad TPW an what max and min temp it can ferment at?

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:27 pm
by Plumby
As low as 15 degrees and as high as 35 I have gone in the past.
I have zero temp control so I just mix it up and let it go.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:54 pm
by Sam.
rockdraft wrote:Hi, can anyone advise what wash temperature is best for standrad TPW an what max and min temp it can ferment at?


First posts are usually in the Welcome Centre :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Put up a post in there letting us know what you want to achieve with what equipment and you will get all the help you need :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:56 pm
by EziTasting
rockdraft wrote:Hi, can anyone advise what wash temperature is best for standrad TPW an what max and min temp it can ferment at?


What Sam said! Gudday RD,

temperatures are often dictated by the yeast you use....

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:20 am
by hz_350
Hi guys i did my first wash and first tpw last night for a 25l wash i wasnt sure if i needed 25l of water or what ever it took to get it to 25l after adding everything else. Anyway ive got 25l of water and the others match the recipe i hope it works out

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 5:57 am
by hz_350
I went out and had a look after the post its out there fizzing away i think it will be fine

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:05 am
by The Stig
Normally you would top up to the 25l mark but don’t worry it’ll be fine

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:09 pm
by hz_350
Another noob question i guess. Wash is fizzing barely and is sitting at what i think is .940 its only been 6 days is this done i was expecting nearly 2 weeks i thought from what i read. If i put the alchometer in what roughly should it read or would that not be a set amount. Its quite involed this stilling bussiness haha

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:20 pm
by bluc
Alcometer is for spirits. Hydrometer for wash. If its on .094 and stays there for few consecutive days its done :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:49 pm
by hz_350
bluc wrote:Alcometer is for spirits. Hydrometer for wash. If its on .094 and stays there for few consecutive days its done :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Thanks mate first time round you never know all the little ins and outs even know ive read so much i just need to do the first 1 and see for myself

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 2:54 pm
by bluc
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Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:26 pm
by hz_350
All good today it is on .990. Things are making sense now

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:41 am
by Squids
I am still confused on the amount of good spirit_after cuts is typical for the standard tpw?

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:28 am
by woodduck
I generally keep 1/3 of the run as hearts (others would probably call me crazy) but it will all depend on how your still runs, how you run your still, quality of wash, how well your wash fermented out, what the ingredients were in your wash and your personal taste buds. There are so many variables (especially personal taste) it's hard to say.

Have you read the cuts thread? My suggestion is to be harsh to start with and experiment once you know what good spirit is.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:37 am
by prawnz
rockdraft wrote:I am still confused on the amount of good spirit_after cuts is typical for the standard tpw?



Mate it depends entirely on your own personal taste as to where you do your cuts . I usually end up with 1.2 - 1.5 lt of 95% , but I discard about 1.2lt from each wash .

In my experience so far with TPWs you will end up with about 500ml of spirit per 1kg of sugar in TOTAL , then start discarding .

Just remember its not about volume its all about quality .

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:57 pm
by Squids
Thanks guys, my main concern is to remove any harmful stuff, I have been carbon filtering so far and will probably continue to do so. Also I intend to air my 90%+ alcohol for a week or so and I am also going to try using a fish tank aerator.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:50 pm
by Rolls912
I’m chasing really pure alcohol. Sick of the wet cardboard taste from turbos.
Once the TPW stops burbling do I just throw it straight into the pot for a strip with no interference at all? No flocker, finnings, yeast killer, paper filter, carbon filter etc?

Also, to improve yield, has anyone blended a portion of turbo? Like a 2/3’rd TPW with a 1/3 Turbo? Or is this just a waste of time?

Cheers

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:29 am
by Professor Green
Once the TPW stops fermenting, leave it for a few days to a week to clear, it will do this naturally so no need to add any clearing rubbish. It should have a nice transparent pink colour to it once it clears.

I wouldn't bother trying to increase the yield, this stuff cost bugger all to make and anything you add will taint the neutrality of the results. You're better off collecting a couple of stripped washes and then combining them and running those nice and slow through your column to get a better hearts cut.

FWIW, I make my neutral with WBAB and usually only end up keeping around half of the product as hearts with the rest going into the feints collection to be rerun at a later stage.

Cheers,
Prof. Green.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:38 am
by Professor Green
How about popping into the welcome centre and introducing yourself too?

Cheers,
Prof. Green.

Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:18 am
by bluc
Rolls912 wrote:I’m chasing really pure alcohol. Sick of the wet cardboard taste from turbos.
Once the TPW stops burbling do I just throw it straight into the pot for a strip with no interference at all? No flocker, finnings, yeast killer, paper filter, carbon filter etc?

Also, to improve yield, has anyone blended a portion of turbo? Like a 2/3’rd TPW with a 1/3 Turbo? Or is this just a waste of time?

Cheers

I have found bad alcohol makes good alcohol bad not the other way around... :handgestures-thumbupleft: