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Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Sun May 27, 2018 7:03 pm
by Doubleuj
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Re: Tomato paste wash
Posted:
Sun May 27, 2018 7:56 pm
by Salter
BackyardBrewer wrote:znipa-x wrote:thinking I'll give my first TPW a run today, quick question, do I still need to add the distilling conditioner/defoaming agent.
Just add a drop of olive oil if you're worried. Does the same thing and loads cheaper.
Is it literally just a drop, because the oily bastard slipped in my hands and I added too much...? I skimmed off as much as I could but was still left with about a teaspoon and the run seemed to go alright. Should I run a vinegar or citric acid clean through the column after that blunder?
I know the flash point of olive oil is lower than water but am unsure what will happen when alcohol comes into the equation.
Re: Tomato paste wash
Posted:
Sun May 27, 2018 8:12 pm
by Doubleuj
Salter wrote:BackyardBrewer wrote:znipa-x wrote:thinking I'll give my first TPW a run today, quick question, do I still need to add the distilling conditioner/defoaming agent.
Just add a drop of olive oil if you're worried. Does the same thing and loads cheaper.
Is it literally just a drop, because the oily bastard slipped in my hands and I added too much...? I skimmed off as much as I could but was still left with about a teaspoon and the run seemed to go alright. Should I run a vinegar or citric acid clean through the column after that blunder?
I know the flash point of olive oil is lower than water but am unsure what will happen when alcohol comes into the equation.
It’s all good, I use a good glug when I’m worried about puking.
Olive oils flash point is much higher than 100 degrees so nothing to worry about.
Plus, zeroth law of thermodynamics has your back too. If the two liquids, (oil and ethanol) are in contact then they’ll be at the same temp.
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:03 am
by Coolabah
My airlock has stopped bubbling for a day and a half is it done?? Iol I'm pretty impatient or should I wait a couple more days it was on 1.060 now it's 1.030 and hasn't moved
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:13 am
by Nathan02
pretty high gravity..is it still fizzing away. might have a leak in your lid somewhere
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Tue Jun 26, 2018 10:33 am
by Coolabah
Nathan02 wrote:pretty high gravity..is it still fizzing away. might have a leak in your lid somewhere
Just looked in the fermenter and still fizzing away but it's getting less and less since I last checked
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:03 pm
by gap
Coolabah wrote:Nathan02 wrote:pretty high gravity..is it still fizzing away. might have a leak in your lid somewhere
Just looked in the fermenter and still fizzing away but it's getting less and less since I last checked
Did you measure your gravity using a hydrometer or a refractometer?
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
Posted:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:15 pm
by Coolabah
Hydrometer
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
Posted:
Tue Jun 26, 2018 7:52 pm
by Sam.
TPW should get close to .990 and at least under 1.000
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:08 am
by Coolabah
How long do I leave lid resting on fermenter and is it required
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:57 am
by Dig Brinker
Keep it covered til you run it.
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:07 am
by Coolabah
Dig Brinker wrote:Keep it covered til you run it.
How long should fermenting take??
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
Posted:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:26 am
by RC Al
Depends how cold it gets, high 20's shoud go through in 4-5ish days (3 days in 30+ summer), my last one ended up taking a month as i let it get down into low teens, current one im running is bubbling well after 3 days, but i pitched a hydrated yeast at 34 deg and wrapped it in a doona straight away.
Currently experimenting with less paste (down to 100g/25l) and adding a dash of DAP, last one was still 11%, only other deviation from std recipe is i dont add citric, no reason, i even have a big tub of the stuff.... its there as a ph adjustment and since it worked for me initially off my tank water (ph 6.8) i havent bothered.
When summer comes im going to do a big drag off of washes, have managed to score a good lot of 30l fermenters cheap, need to work out where to put them when running.... really need to make some dedicated space for this stuff
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
Posted:
Wed Jul 04, 2018 12:08 pm
by Coolabah
RC Al wrote:Depends how cold it gets, high 20's shoud go through in 4-5ish days (3 days in 30+ summer), my last one ended up taking a month as i let it get down into low teens, current one im running is bubbling well after 3 days, but i pitched a hydrated yeast at 34 deg and wrapped it in a doona straight away.
Currently experimenting with less paste (down to 100g/25l) and adding a dash of DAP, last one was still 11%, only other deviation from std recipe is i dont add citric, no reason, i even have a big tub of the stuff.... its there as a ph adjustment and since it worked for me initially off my tank water (ph 6.8) i havent bothered.
When summer comes im going to do a big drag off of washes, have managed to score a good lot of 30l fermenters cheap, need to work out where to put them when running.... really need to make some dedicated space for this stuff
I'm using a 200l container and it's still bubbling away after a week and I followed the tpw calculator
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:10 pm
by RC Al
The bigger fermenters seem to hold heat better, wrap it up and keep it warm and it will go quicker.
Many use aquarium heaters
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 10:39 pm
by Coolabah
RC Al wrote:The bigger fermenters seem to hold heat better, wrap it up and keep it warm and it will go quicker.
Many use aquarium heaters
It's fermenting at 40c
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:08 pm
by RC Al
Then your missing ingredient is patience :handgestures-thumbupleft:
You're going to need a heap of that if you are going to run that lot through an air still :think:
The last of it will get plenty of time to clear though :D
I haven't made a batch that big yet, but I seem to recall a few reports of random long ferments in that size
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Wed Jul 04, 2018 11:42 pm
by Coolabah
RC Al wrote:Then your missing ingredient is patience :handgestures-thumbupleft:
You're going to need a heap of that if you are going to run that lot through an air still :think:
The last of it will get plenty of time to clear though :D
I haven't made a batch that big yet, but I seem to recall a few reports of random long ferments in that size
I agree but I think I should start looking for a reflux still about 35l which will be less time consuming because 3x 200l will take a long time through a 5l air still any recommendations on a starter reflux still
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Thu Jul 05, 2018 10:49 am
by Professor Green
FSD were doing a very good boka that fits on the HBS boilers for a very good price. Maybe hit Wazza or Andrew up and see if they're still going to be doing them.
Re: Tomato Paste Wash (TPW) Recipe Discussion
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Mon Aug 20, 2018 1:22 pm
by Big J
What do you mean when you say "pitch yeast"?