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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby EziTasting » Sat May 28, 2016 10:51 am

What did that grape press set you back?

Wonder if that would also work with grains? Thinking they are usually ground-up and much smaller... so would, by looking at your pics, just squeeze out of the press and end up back in the mash... Your thoughts?
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby bayshine » Sat May 28, 2016 10:54 am

EziTasting wrote:What did that grape press set you back?

Wonder if that would also work with grains? Thinking they are usually ground-up and much smaller... so would, by looking at your pics, just squeeze out of the press and end up back in the mash... Your thoughts?

I'm hopping it works on grain as well, as it wasn't cheap..$680 and it is a 35lt basket :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby EziTasting » Sat May 28, 2016 11:00 am

so you think it'll be OK for grains?!? No need to install or make some kind of fine filter basket insert or anything... :think:
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby wynnum1 » Sat May 28, 2016 11:24 am

What do they use to cook the agave with would think that wood would be in short supply if started making mescal in large quantities does the pulp burn after its dried.
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby warramungas » Sat May 28, 2016 11:43 am

bayshine wrote:
warramungas wrote:How far back did you cut into the core and how did you? Did you just trim at the base of the leaves or further back to remove all the outer material?
Curious as quite a few are being removed from town at the moment.

I used a machete to cut the leaves off, gloves and long sleeves are the go for this, then stabbed into the root ball underneath from all sides and kicked it over....would have been easier to tow it out with the ute :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Be curious to know how big and deep the root balls are as I'm pretty sure they used as much of the plant as they could. Having said that I'm not going to be getting the shovel from the shed to find out. :))
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby bayshine » Sat May 28, 2016 11:50 am

EziTasting wrote:so you think it'll be OK for grains?!? No need to install or make some kind of fine filter basket insert or anything... :think:

I've got a nylon mesh bag that with fit in there and will try pressing that :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby EziTasting » Sat May 28, 2016 11:55 am

Guess it's a 'succulent' so chances are it would have the sweet-nectar throughout the plant. Return on time invested would vary greatly, tho, based on what you'd get out of the different parts.
The only way to find out for sure is to either do the experiment on different parts (say: leave, base $ heart of base ~perhaps root stock?!?!) and cook and ferment them separately and then compare... That sounds like a good deal of time, though!

It would certainly allow you to 'fast-track' any future agave processing as you'd discard the less productive parts from the onset!

Someone just posted that they're ripping them out in their neighborhood, perhaps they can get them delivered to their home to work on it??? Lol probably a task too big for one person!
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby bayshine » Sun May 29, 2016 9:04 am

Looking at all that I could find on the net, cut as much of the leaves off as possible and just cook the pina,and cook it really good.its the leaves that have most of the nasties.
The bit around the root ball is very woody and is not needed as well.
I'd love for someone else to give this a go with an UDS or a large bbq roasting setup and see if they could have more success than me :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby EziTasting » Sun May 29, 2016 10:24 am

bayshine wrote:Looking at all that I could find on the net, cut as much of the leaves off as possible and just cook the pina,and cook it really good.its the leaves that have most of the nasties.
The bit around the root ball is very woody and is not needed as well.
I'd love for someone else to give this a go with an UDS or a large bbq roasting setup and see if they could have more success than me :handgestures-thumbupleft:



Well, if you're keen, come for a drive up north (best time of year to do it - lovely and cool) while I ask the owners of the many places that have the agave plants out front if they'd like them removed ... then you can try all sorts of ways! Might even give you a hand! :clap:
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby warramungas » Sun May 29, 2016 11:32 am

Found this page which might help you out. Looks like they distill to a really low abv before barreling.
http://izkalitequila.com/blog/the-7-ste ... la-making/
Hopefully the link is ok admins. They don't sell on that site.
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby scythe » Sun May 29, 2016 12:54 pm

I wonder what the take off rate is to achieve 20% distillate, gotta be up around 100l/hr or something stupid like that.
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby warramungas » Sun May 29, 2016 7:22 pm

scythe wrote:I wonder what the take off rate is to achieve 20% distillate, gotta be up around 100l/hr or something stupid like that.

Or really low abv to start with.
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby EziTasting » Sun May 29, 2016 10:41 pm

warramungas wrote:Found this page which might help you out. Looks like they distill to a really low abv before barreling.
http://izkalitequila.com/blog/the-7-ste ... la-making/
Hopefully the link is ok admins. They don't sell on that site.


Wow, 15 pounds (~7.5Kg) for each Litre of Tequilla...
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby bayshine » Mon May 30, 2016 8:43 am

EziTasting wrote:
bayshine wrote:Looking at all that I could find on the net, cut as much of the leaves off as possible and just cook the pina,and cook it really good.its the leaves that have most of the nasties.
The bit around the root ball is very woody and is not needed as well.
I'd love for someone else to give this a go with an UDS or a large bbq roasting setup and see if they could have more success than me :handgestures-thumbupleft:



Well, if you're keen, come for a drive up north (best time of year to do it - lovely and cool) while I ask the owners of the many places that have the agave plants out front if they'd like them removed ... then you can try all sorts of ways! Might even give you a hand! :clap:

I may take you up on that Ezi lol as I'm out of a job in a month but I will have to look out the plane window tomorrow as fly to work past the pilbra :angry-banghead:
For now I've put the fermenters on 32'c and see what they've done in 2 weeks while I'm at work but I think it's gunna be a fail :handgestures-thumbdown:
Lesson learned.....more cooking next time :think:
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby wynnum1 » Mon May 30, 2016 9:55 am

Can enzymes be used .
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby EziTasting » Mon May 30, 2016 9:27 pm

I am a strong believer that it's only a failure if nothing is learned!

Otherwise it's a learning experience!! :-B :pray:
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby bayshine » Thu Jun 23, 2016 2:02 pm

Well after being at work for three weeks, it's been sitting at 33'c and will give it a run this arfo :handgestures-thumbupleft:
And it taste funky like a tequila beer :handgestures-thumbupleft: :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby bluc » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:03 pm

bayshine wrote:Well after being at work for three weeks, it's been sitting at 33'c and will give it a run this arfo :handgestures-thumbupleft:
And it taste funky like a tequila beer :handgestures-thumbupleft: :handgestures-thumbupleft:

How did you get on did you get to run it?
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby Darwin award » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:20 pm

EziTasting wrote:I am a strong believer that it's only a failure if nothing is learned!

Otherwise it's a learning experience!! :-B :pray:


well said!
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Re: tequila or mescal

Postby bayshine » Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:28 pm

Running off the heads now :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Have been dipping a finger n tasting the fores n heads and they all taste the same as a shot outa the bottle of Espolon tequila that I'm currently drinking :teasing-tease: am thinking with store bought tequila you get the lot :laughing-rolling:
Running just 3 plates at about 90abv :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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