Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

[EziTasting]

:)) looking to do the Appalchian Moonshine and that is reportedly a bit of work...

But reading above, my understanding was that the percentages are actual % of grains, not sugars! So 80% is 80% corn! Not corn sugars...

But I am new and my understanding may not be complete!!

[crozdog]

Holy crap that was hard work. Results I hope are worth it otherwise that's the last all grain I'm doing. The ujssm was heaps less work.
If I decide to do it again I'm sure I'll be doing a 100liter plus batch with a mixer to make the effort worthwhile.

yeah corn mashing is a tough nut to crack.

Did you punch your recipe into some brewing software to work out the anticipated OG? I think it worthwhile so you can see how well your process is or if there is room for improvement. What was your expected OG compared to what you got?

I'd recommend playing with the brew software to see how much the corn added compared to the barley & rye.

Also, did you do an iodine test to see if conversion was complete?

[warramungas]

Iodine test was fine.
OG? Honestly by the time I was finished I couldn't be buggered to dig it out as it was in another box out in the shed. Should be fine and its bubbling away quite happily on the grain now. I'll just take what I can get, measure it out and see how well I did.
Need a way to make the corn finer. Tried the food processor and it didn't do a lot and don't own a stick blender. Still quite a lot of coarse material in there which wouldn't have converted.

[EziTasting]

Need a way to make the corn finer. Tried the food processor and it didn't do a lot and don't own a stick blender. Still quite a lot of coarse material in there which wouldn't have converted.

Are you saying that the 'Cracked' corn isn't going to be that good because it's too coarse?!?
So you'd recommend corn meal!?!

[warramungas]

For small amounts I'd go corn meal. For larger I'd go cracked maize and find some way to grind it up. Corn meal can get expensive.

[warramungas]

Think I muffed it. Smells like bananas through the airlock. Oh well. I'll let it finish and see what I've ended up with.

[bluc]

Does bananas mean infection? Did you pasteurize after mashing was complete then cool and pitch yeast? I always did to make sure there were no bugs in mash.

[warramungas]

Doesn't smell anything like corn washes I did before.
Boiled water, added all corn, mixed like crazy to gelatinize. Temp still in 90's.
Allowed to cool to 67-68 added barley, wort cleared then transferred to cooler stirring occasionally and let sit overnight.
Transferred to fermenter in the morning.
Will try again with high temp enzymes if this doesn't work. Not so critical with temperature.

[bluc]

:)) looking to do the Appalchian Moonshine and that is reportedly a bit of work...

But reading above, my understanding was that the percentages are actual % of grains, not sugars! So 80% is 80% corn! Not corn sugars...

But I am new and my understanding may not be complete!!

Have a read of http://aussiedistiller.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=5399#p90920when doing all grain % is talking about % of sugar from different grain not percentage of grain.

[EziTasting]

Roger.
Good thing I piped up,coz I would have gotten it wrong it seems.

Thx bluc

[bluc]

warramungas how did you get one on with this I know its early days but what are your thoughts?

[warramungas]

warramungas how did you get one on with this I know its early days but what are your thoughts?

Still sitting in the fermenter waiting for my new 2" bubbler to be ready. Only another few days now (I hope) and we'll be away. :))
I'll be scrupulous with cuts on this one to try and get the best from it.

[bluc]

Cool would be interested in hearing how the 2"bubbler goes to :handgestures-thumbupleft:

[bluc]

Warra anything else I need for this plan to order grain in next day or two for 3 batchs, do I need any yeast nutrient or anything else?

[wedwards]

Just one thing to consider with the process outlined. If you reduce temp to mid 60C then add your grain, you're going to mash at maybe 50C which I don't think is high enough for what you want. I'd be aiming more like mid 70s to have the mash end up around 60C, leave it for 2 hours then top up with water and add yeast. Im no expert, but thats how Ive done these types of washes in the past and conversion seems pretty good (which is what you want if you're going to use the enzymes in your malt to convert your corn).

[wedwards]

An yes I am suggesting you ferment it with all the grain in it - way better flavour as long as you don't leave it to ferment for months on the grain.

[bluc]

Way I did my mash boiled cracked corn 90 degrees c (gunna mill the corn for this recipe) till porridge bout 3 hours reduced to 67-69 added malts stabilized temp at 65 degrees left for 1 hour then tested with iodine no starch left so all good returned to boil, good strong boil for 15 odd minutes. Dumped into fermenter and swished it to sanitize plastic put some liquid in airlock sealed it up then once cooled pitched yeast.. fermented off grain mashed in biab..

[wedwards]

Way I did my mash boiled cracked corn 90 degrees c (gunna mill the corn for this recipe) till porridge bout 3 hours reduced to 67-69 added malts stabilized temp at 65 degrees left for 1 hour then tested with iodine no starch left so all good returned to boil, good strong boil for 15 odd minutes. Dumped into fermenter and swished it to sanitize plastic put some liquid in airlock sealed it up then once cooled pitched yeast.. fermented off grain mashed in biab..

How do you only drop 4 degrees after adding your malt? How much boiling water are you using for boiling the corn? Are you adding more hot water at the same time or something?

[bluc]

I Mash in t500 boiler with voltage controller maybe I drop more degrees but from memory didn't take long to stabilize at 65. Way I understand under temp doesn't matter but over does. Unless you mash in an esky cooler with no active cooling and no way of increasing temp.

[warramungas]

Warra anything else I need for this plan to order grain in next day or two for 3 batchs, do I need any yeast nutrient or anything else?

I don't think so. The grain should provide everything needed. I'm going to give this recipe a miss just for the time being until I've got my toy bubbler down pat with sugar heads which seem to be more forgiving. I think I've learned enough not to muff it next time.