Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby bayshine » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:07 pm

I've always used starsan n never had an infection since
If you boil your mash after conversion you will kill all the enzymes that are still slowly working away at the complex sugars and your ferment will likely finish at a much higher finishing SG . This is fine for beer as this gives it good body but for spirits we want as much alcohol as we can get. You need a wort chiller to get your mash down to temp faster and this will help ward of infections and keep all thing used to stir or touch the mash in a bucket of steriliser :handgestures-thumbupleft:


Edit.. And starsan is no rinse :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby EziTasting » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:13 pm

I was thinking of Starsan; you can leave it in the fermenter when you add your wash.
My thought, perhaps erroneously, was to give it a couple of squirts once everything is in and thoroughly mixed up.

Edit:- following above post.
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby jacobraven » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:22 pm

I also wash let it drip dry then cover in clingwrap til i use it normally same day but im cautious
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby bluc » Thu Apr 21, 2016 4:17 pm

bayshine wrote:If you boil your mash after conversion you will kill all the enzymes that are still slowly working away at the complex sugars and your ferment will likely finish at a much higher finishing SG .

Never thought of that, I might do one batch with after boil and another without and compare. s.g /f.g.
I would have though all starch would have been converted during the mash otherwise the iodine test would fail?
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby bayshine » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:16 pm

Complex sugars don't show up in iodine test necessarily as they a not pure starch and iodine test isn't always 100 percent :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby bluc » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:22 pm

Ok will compare the methods and report the difference :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby EziTasting » Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:29 pm

bluc wrote:
bayshine wrote:If you boil your mash after conversion you will kill all the enzymes that are still slowly working away at the complex sugars and your ferment will likely finish at a much higher finishing SG .

Never thought of that, I might do one batch with after boil and another without and compare. s.g /f.g.
I would have though all starch would have been converted during the mash otherwise the iodine test would fail?


I guess you could boil the corn only, the enzymes in that are negligible when it comes to converting starches to sugars! Then add the malted Barley after the temp drops to around the 60-65 degrees for the conversion... Just a thought.
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby warramungas » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:51 am

EziTasting wrote:
bluc wrote:
bayshine wrote:If you boil your mash after conversion you will kill all the enzymes that are still slowly working away at the complex sugars and your ferment will likely finish at a much higher finishing SG .

Never thought of that, I might do one batch with after boil and another without and compare. s.g /f.g.
I would have though all starch would have been converted during the mash otherwise the iodine test would fail?


I guess you could boil the corn only, the enzymes in that are negligible when it comes to converting starches to sugars! Then add the malted Barley after the temp drops to around the 60-65 degrees for the conversion... Just a thought.


Tried that and ended up with a massive infection. Needs to be reboiled after the malt.
I have to say how blasé you guys are with leaving sterilizer in your primary fermenter before your fermentation.
I rinse the crap out of my stuff before the yeast goes anywhere near it regardless what the instructions say.
Could be a carryover from my beer brewing as I dont want to drink the stuff. Maybe irrelevant in distilling.
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby bayshine » Fri Apr 22, 2016 7:11 am

You want to drain your starsan out of your fermenter but it doesn't need to be rinsed out as small amounts won't hurt anything :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby wynnum1 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 1:50 pm

jacobraven wrote:Ive always used pink stuff never had an infection its chlorine based rinse well . :)

Chlorinated tri-sodium phosphates (Pink).

Chlorinated Tri-sodium Phosphate (Pink) is a very effective cleaner and with the chlorine is also a sanitizer. Brewing equipment cleaned with Pink needs to be rinsed very well before use. Pink was one of our favourites but is a fairly aggressive product and is becoming harder to source due to the risk of handling the product.


Pool and spa use these chemicals .
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby jacobraven » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:15 pm

I believe your thinking of sodium hypochlorite or chlorine maybe even calcium hypochlorite if you use granular or even lithium hypochlorite in the spa. But yes bleach is chlorine vice versa dependent on potency. It is a great sterilizer, either way you rinse well with the chlorinated tap water that you drink and shower in daily ;) . Getting bit of track but.
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby EziTasting » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:43 pm

lol, on a weeks break in Sydney and found that Pink stuff on the shelf of a local HBS (17 Burke street)... But I only wanted Starsan...
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby jacobraven » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:25 pm

It works. Never had an infection, starsan is phosphoric acid they are both nasty. :)
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby bluc » Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:21 pm

Grain and yeast arrived will mash in sunday :dance: :happy-partydance:
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby EziTasting » Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:06 pm

bluc wrote:Grain and yeast arrived will mash in sunday :dance: :happy-partydance:



Might have to make short vids... :-B
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby wynnum1 » Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:45 am

Infection is controlled by the yeast getting to ferment with good quantity of yeast get it started quickly the TOMATO PASTE WASHES have less problem with infection then beer because of the increased yeast at the start.
If you get an infection clean everything not just the fermenter .
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby bluc » Sat Apr 23, 2016 8:56 pm

EziTasting wrote:
bluc wrote:Grain and yeast arrived will mash in sunday :dance: :happy-partydance:



Might have to make short vids... :-B


I might leave that for people who actually know what they are doing :teasing-tease: :teasing-neener:
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby EziTasting » Sun Apr 24, 2016 9:07 am

bluc wrote:
EziTasting wrote:
bluc wrote:Grain and yeast arrived will mash in sunday :dance: :happy-partydance:



Might have to make short vids... :-B


I might leave that for people who actually know what they are doing :teasing-tease: :teasing-neener:


Hah. Look at it this way, if you do it well you'll get applause! It'll go into the archives as a instructional vid...
If you don't,we'll use it as comic relief and it'll still go into the archives as an instructional vid, but more as a "Don't do this!"!!! :laughing-rolling:

Win-Win!! :D
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby bluc » Sun Apr 24, 2016 11:37 am

:D No mashing for me today big night :obscene-drinkingdrunk:
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Re: Corn whiskey all grain recipe.

Postby wynnum1 » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:02 pm

bluc wrote::D No mashing for me today big night :obscene-drinkingdrunk:

When you do mash start early and the corn could even start cooking the night before and let sit overnight .
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