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Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:57 pm
by EziTasting
Just run the first spirit run of my tp/kw (tomato paste & kale wash) and I get a bitter (not sour or tart) after taste.

Has anyone come accross that anytime???

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:54 am
by wynnum1
Did you grow or buy the kale on garden site that is sweeter in cold weather.

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:21 am
by WTDist
strip and spirit run or just spirit run?

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:14 pm
by EziTasting
wynnum1 wrote:Did you grow or buy the kale on garden site that is sweeter in cold weather.


Sorry, bought @ Coles...

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 9:16 pm
by EziTasting
WTDist wrote:strip and spirit run or just spirit run?


Stripped 200L then did first half of the spirit run (ended up with near 60L of low wines @ 51%)...

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:36 pm
by googe
Dunno mate, never had a bitter taste

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:17 pm
by Icefever
I don't know what you were drinking Googe when you came up with the idea of using kale in a sugar wash.....but it beats the hell out of anything else. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

I've known about this kale wash of Googe's for a while now off another forum...I even use kale now in my Golden syrup washes to make GS rum...

EziTasting wrote:Just run the first spirit run of my tp/kw (tomato paste & kale wash) and I get a bitter (not sour or tart) after taste.
Has anyone come accross that anytime???


My 2 cents mate...could it be the TP?? my wife & I both love cooking and we know that using TP in a dish will give a bitter taste....we add honey to balance it out.

Why use TP with the kale??? as I understand it, they both do the same thing....feed the yeast....maybe the two together mixed and that's what has given the wash this taste??

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:53 pm
by EziTasting
G'day Ice,
Didn't have enough tomato paste and I wanted to try the kale...

ALL previous TPW were nothing like this one! They all tasted great with slight floral notes so this had me completely stumped!! :think:

So, for a start, no more mixing my ingredients!!

Starting to think it may have something to do with us stripping those beer kegs ... I know we did clean it, perhaps we need to boil some water and run that thru before doing any other washes!?!?

Well, we managed to only get thru half the low wines, second batch will be going thru this weekend - guess we'll see if it was the wash or the cleaning of the still...

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:50 pm
by Icefever
The spirit run through a reflux should clean it up well...I suggest you go the whole hog and make a straight sugar and kale wash....you won't be disappointed my friend. :-D

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:48 am
by googe
Glad you like it icefever :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 3:47 pm
by Icefever
googe wrote:Glad you like it icefever :handgestures-thumbupleft:



Using kale is so much easier than all this artificial crap that some guys say to use..comes out a nice clean wash...cheers again Googe :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:06 pm
by Toddles
Well it's time for this noob to try out the kale goodness.

Quick question. After reading through this it seems like a powerhouse wash and i was wondering how much head space to provide.
It's out in the shed so doesn't matter if it overflows really but i would like to avoid it if i can.

General consensus?

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:21 pm
by wynnum1
What does the wash taste like out of the fermenter is it bitter.

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:37 pm
by Icefever
I use 30ltr buckets...I aim for around 23/25ltr max...that level is 6" below the top...I've had the crown hit the underside of the lid.

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:39 pm
by Icefever
wynnum1 wrote:What does the wash taste like out of the fermenter is it bitter.


No...it's clean & sweet...used in a golden syrup wash it has a vanilla smell..

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 4:51 pm
by Toddles
Icefever wrote:I use 30ltr buckets...I aim for around 23/25ltr max...that level is 6" below the top...I've had the crown hit the underside of the lid.


Cheers mate.

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:41 pm
by googe
Mine have a hint of taste like a dry white wine wynum, I'm no wine snob though lol.

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:57 pm
by Toddles
Hey googe how much do you have to blitz the kale before you chuck it in?

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:04 pm
by googe
Hey toodles, I just blitz it with the stick blender till it's broken up, no real rocket science to it, I like things easy and simple lol.

Re: Kale neutral.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:16 pm
by Toddles
So do i :D

Thanks mate.