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by **Sponge** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:01 am

Hello everybody I'm really enjoying reading through post that people have put up collecting info for my build of a cm copper still like most new guy I keep referring to the appendix of abbreviations to understand what everyone is talking about. But slowly making sense.

A little about my self I live in north perth and do fifo to Northern Territory with mechanical trade background I look forward to future conversations and getting help from you all when I get stuck on something.

Cheers sponge :text-thankyoublue:

by **Dominator** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:09 pm

Welcome mate, it can be a bit daunting at first but give it a bit of time and it will become second nature.

by **Sam.** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:14 pm

Welcome aboard mate, there is plenty of information to absorb, good thing your a sponge :handgestures-thumbupleft: :laughing-rolling:

by **Kimbo** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:59 am

:laughing-rolling: great to have ya here mate ;-)

by **Bushy** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:16 am

Hey Sponge,
Even fitters are welcome here. Enjoy yrself.

by **Zak Griffin** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:42 am

Welcome to the forums mate! Everything you need to know can be found here.

Can I ask why you want to build a CM, instead of a VM or LM?

by **Smbjk** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:23 pm

Zak Griffin wrote:Welcome to the forums mate! Everything you need to know can be found here.

Can I ask why you want to build a CM, instead of a VM or LM?

:text-+1: :wtf:

by **Sponge** » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:18 pm

Sorry for the late reply

The only reason I am building a cm is that is what a couple of guys have that I work with. so information is easily obtained by a quick visit to them although. I am doing a slightly different design than they got.

I did try research the pros and cons of a cm and other than a few people bagging it out ( without much explanation why) I couldn't see a reason why not.

Can you guys tell me why to avoid a cm?

This is my first still I'm building so before I get to far into it I would rather know now.

Cheers sponge

by **Gas on** » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:29 pm

Hey sponge,
Good to have you :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Beware of the plate bashers!! :angry-banghead: :angry-banghead: theres a few around here. :angry-banghead: :angry-banghead: :angry-banghead:
A 4plate cm is exactly what you want to make that lovely rum & bourbon... :handgestures-thumbupleft: :handgestures-thumbupleft:

by **SBB** » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:49 pm

I dont know a huge amount about reflux stills, but the general consensus around the different forums seems to be that CMs can be a bit fiddly to run.
LM's and VM are a more popular choice for that reason, Im sure there is more to it than just that, but that is the basics as far as I understand it.
That is if its a reflux still your hoping to build.
A bubbler is also a type of CM.

by **Sponge** » Sat Feb 15, 2014 6:54 pm

Yes it is will be a reflux not a bubbler.

The design I am doing I haven't been able to find on the internet so all sizing and measurements of tubes are from memory and research as I start tigging everything together I will post photos.

I am also building a pot still at the same time.

Reasoning behind it is that stainless is available to me at the moment so make both while I can.

Cheers sponge

by **Sam.** » Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:15 pm

How about you put up a drawing of what you are going to build before you start building, there is an old CM design that isn't the best, I hope your not planning on building one :?

by **Sponge** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:54 am

Attached is the bad drawing of the cm I am going to build

by **Sponge** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:56 am

It will have an 8 inch double helix cooling coil and stainless scrubbers it will be jacketed and the outlet will run through the cooled jacket I think 1.4 m of 10mm tube is what I managed to squeeze into the outlet coil

by **BackInBlack** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 10:45 am

Welcome to the forum.
Hope you plan on having some copper in the vapor path, if your still is going to be all stainless.

by **Zak Griffin** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:02 pm

It'd be easier, probably cheaper and more effective to build a Boka, mate...

CM's are finicky to run, especially if you plan on using a recirculating system for cooling water...

Also, the way you have your PC jacketed around the column is going to make it even harder to run... Much better off with a Liebig (which you will also be able to use for your pot, if done right)

by **Sponge** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:30 pm

BackInBlack wrote:Welcome to the forum.
Hope you plan on having some copper in the vapor path, if your still is going to be all stainless.

Why the need for copper in the vapour path? What does it do to the product?

Zak Griffin wrote:It'd be easier, probably cheaper and more effective to build a Boka, mate...

CM's are finicky to run, especially if you plan on using a recirculating system for cooling water...

Also, the way you have your PC jacketed around the column is going to make it even harder to run... Much better off with a Liebig (which you will also be able to use for your pot, if done right)

I understand you saying it will be finicky but in what way will I be constantly adjusting coolant or will I be always tweaking something?

And I wasn't planning on using a recirculating system.

by **Sponge** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:31 pm

Sorry for all the questions I'm just trying to understand why in my head

by **BackInBlack** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 1:50 pm

Sponge wrote:
BackInBlack wrote:Welcome to the forum.
Hope you plan on having some copper in the vapor path, if your still is going to be all stainless.

Why the need for copper in the vapour path? What does it do to the product?

It removes the sulphide's, giving you a cleaner product

by **Sponge** » Mon Feb 17, 2014 2:06 pm

Thank you very much I shall have copper in the viper path now thank you.

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