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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby CyBaThUg » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:23 pm

grow cane and crush it lol
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby Urrazeb » Fri Jan 09, 2015 5:48 pm

CyBaThUg wrote:grow cane and crush it lol

Don't be funny I have actually crossed that idea 8-} the space needed and cool weather is a problem though :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby MacStill » Fri Jan 09, 2015 11:06 pm

Urrazeb wrote:
CyBaThUg wrote:grow cane and crush it lol

Don't be funny I have actually crossed that idea 8-} the space needed and cool weather is a problem though :laughing-rolling:


If only we had clay based soil here in Perth instead of sand you would have no trouble growing cane, I've seen cane grown in areas that get winter frosts, and yeh it loves water ;-)
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby wynnum1 » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:11 am

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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby bluc » Wed Feb 24, 2016 1:27 pm

Urrazeb how did you get on with this? did you find a supplier for the sugar cane juice or bulk panela/rapadura/jaggery? Wanting to experiment also but at 7.50kg + freight rapadura sugar is killing me... :angry-banghead:
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby Dig Brinker » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:49 pm

Not trying to put a stop to the experimentation, but I saw mega factories - Bacardi a couple of weeks ago, and they use molasses and water for their wash. They didn't give too much away in regards to oaking & aging. Has anyone tried untoasted oak? Would impart flavour without the dark colouring, not sure if it would give off a yellowish white wine type colour or not. And not sure about the raw oak flavouring either, but may be worth a shot ;-)
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby bluc » Mon Feb 29, 2016 7:22 pm

Barcardi video, Its a good watch, panela/rapadura/jaggery sugar i think is as close to cane juice as we will get unless someone has access to a cane mill.. i made some rum with honey/molasses/raw sugar and panela, the panela gives it a flavour of the smell of brown sugar if that makes sence gotta do more experimenting before i decide if its worth the money to me.. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby Urrazeb » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:34 pm

I have come close, but the rum I have ageing at the moment will be carbon filtered to try the bacardi way.. Only another 12 months to go...
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby bluc » Mon Feb 29, 2016 8:40 pm

did you use cane juice or jaggery/panela?
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby Urrazeb » Fri Mar 04, 2016 9:07 pm

Just a straight mc rum mate
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby Darwin award » Sun Mar 06, 2016 3:20 am

I'm growing cane for this very reason, other thing to try is rapadura sugar, it's just dried and concentrated cane juice and most hippy...oops I mean health food stores sell it. It ain't cheap though, which is BS as it's just dried out cane juice!
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby bluc » Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:24 am

Darwin award wrote:I'm growing cane for this very reason, other thing to try is rapadura sugar, it's just dried and concentrated cane juice and most hippy...oops I mean health food stores sell it. It ain't cheap though, which is BS as it's just dried out cane juice!

Cool I wonder how much cane you have to grow to get a 200l of molasses...
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby Darwin award » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:00 pm

bluc wrote:
Darwin award wrote:I'm growing cane for this very reason, other thing to try is rapadura sugar, it's just dried and concentrated cane juice and most hippy...oops I mean health food stores sell it. It ain't cheap though, which is BS as it's just dried out cane juice!

Cool I wonder how much cane you have to grow to get a 200l of molasses...


heaps and heaps I think...as you need to boil and reduce the cane juice
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby bluc » Sun Mar 06, 2016 2:47 pm

Let us know how the cane juice rum goes. I made some rum 1.5l molasses 1kg honey 1kg panela 1kg caramlised sugar and 1.5kg raw sugar. It has a strong "brown sugar smell" taste. It tastes like brown sugar smells. I am hoping that particular flavour mellows over time...
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby bluc » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:20 pm

Darwin award wrote:
bluc wrote:
Darwin award wrote:I'm growing cane for this very reason, other thing to try is rapadura sugar, it's just dried and concentrated cane juice and most hippy...oops I mean health food stores sell it. It ain't cheap though, which is BS as it's just dried out cane juice!

Cool I wonder how much cane you have to grow to get a 200l of molasses...


heaps and heaps I think...as you need to boil and reduce the cane juice


Bit of trivia 36kg of molasses per tonne of cane results in 9.7-10 litre absolute ethanol normal get 45-50 tons of cane per acre :handgestures-thumbupleft:
So on an acre you could fill an ibc each year with molasses :teasing-tease:
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby Swisswa » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:12 pm

Just bought a 20kg bag of rapadura sugar to play around with, to add to the rest of my rum experiments :-B

Cheapest I could find in Perth was from some shop called 2 brothers foods, worked out to be something like $5.90/kg
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby bluc » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:15 pm

Let me know how you go I used some with molasses and honey but resulting spirit tastes "soapy" I have a feeling it came from the honey next time I will add it after rather than fermenting it...
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby wynnum1 » Thu Jun 02, 2016 8:29 am

Woolworths have all different sugars from around the world 100 grams for $2 who would buy $20 kg sugar.
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby bluc » Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:42 pm

Yea have seen that expensive as..
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Re: Sugar cane juice Perth

Postby Darwin award » Thu Jun 02, 2016 10:41 pm

The cane is growing well, up near 5 foot tall now....If this all goes well, I've got near 20 acres to plant...been reading + researching as to why cane isn't grown in Darwin (anymore) and I've heard all the theories....But I think it's labour cost, that and the fact that there simply isn't the infrastructure up here to process it..BUT if you're doing a Rhum agricole, yeah, I recon it's doable... anyways, playing round still...bluddy neo-hippies....Its wrong that you now have to pay far more for a far less processed product......and the less processing, the more the carryover flavours from soil type, rainfall ect ect..
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