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Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 3:19 pm
by Knackerbag
Lol I think someone is taken my the piss, with the photo upload it's always like that they are fine on my pc and if you click the image they come out the right way. :think:

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 5:49 pm
by Knackerbag
Ohh shiny bits thank you 5 star.

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:14 pm
by Knackerbag
I am borrowing a mates oxy so I can start work in the copper, what should I be buying soft solder or the silver solder. I have read a heap of threads from the workbench with a heap of different opinions. I had access to the oxy for free so thought I would try it instead of buying a butane torch.

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:28 pm
by Stemmy
I used both on my build if I had oxy I would of hard soldered everything but saying that the soft solder was pretty good to work with I built my Deflag with soft solder

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 6:35 pm
by rumdidlydum
Have a go at silver solder since you have access to oxy. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Cant comment on soft solder never tried it :teasing-tease:

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:07 pm
by Knackerbag
rumdidlydum wrote:Have a go at silver solder since you have access to oxy. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Cant comment on soft solder never tried it :teasing-tease:


Bunnings sell the 15% rods for $15 each I think is that reasonable?

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 7:08 pm
by Knackerbag
Stemmy wrote:I used both on my build if I had oxy I would of hard soldered everything but saying that the soft solder was pretty good to work with I built my Deflag with soft solder


I'll have a crack at the hard solder and see what happens. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:21 pm
by Sam.
rumdidlydum wrote:Have a go at silver solder since you have access to oxy. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Cant comment on soft solder never tried it :teasing-tease:


Im no coppersmith but from my knowledge I think it would be quite hard to soft solder anything small with oxy, there is too much heat.

Oxy = Hard Solder

Butane torch = Soft solder

MAPP Torch = Hard solder of small items and soft solder of larger

That's the way I see it anyway :-B

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:48 pm
by rumdidlydum
Just to clarify silver solder is hard solder :O)

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:52 pm
by Sam.
rumdidlydum wrote:Just to clarify silver solder is hard solder :O)


Yes but that can be confusing as well as the soft solder most use says "lead free silver solder".

If it's a long hard stick then it's hard solder.

If it's a soft coil of solder then it's soft solder.

It is quite confusing ~x(

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2017 8:54 pm
by rumdidlydum
:)) :text-lol:

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:35 am
by Knackerbag
Sam. wrote:
rumdidlydum wrote:Just to clarify silver solder is hard solder :O)


Yes but that can be confusing as well as the soft solder most use says "lead free silver solder".

If it's a long hard stick then it's hard solder.

If it's a soft coil of solder then it's soft solder.

It is quite confusing ~x(


Bloody confusing.

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:38 am
by Knackerbag
Sam. wrote:
rumdidlydum wrote:Have a go at silver solder since you have access to oxy. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Cant comment on soft solder never tried it :teasing-tease:


Im no coppersmith but from my knowledge I think it would be quite hard to soft solder anything small with oxy, there is too much heat.

Oxy = Hard Solder

Butane torch = Soft solder

MAPP Torch = Hard solder of small items and soft solder of larger

That's the way I see it anyway :-B


It's seems more the equipment you have access to dictates the method to use from the threads everyone has had success and problems with both.

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:41 am
by Knackerbag
So I'll get the 15% rods, flux or no flux that is the question. So many people are saying don't use flux on copper to copper then a heap of instructional threads or videos they use flux???

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:07 am
by Zak Griffin
No flux required.

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:09 am
by rumdidlydum
I use it all the on copper to copper, also find flux handy when doing copper to stainless.

But thats me :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:11 am
by Azza76
If copper is clean no worries but if very dirty use flux, copper to brass flux is required. You just need to make sure that you heat your materials up enough for your solder to work around the joint. Have some practice runs first to get the hang of it :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Ps hard solder a pain in the ass to clean up :angry-banghead:

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:53 am
by Dig Brinker
You'll need a LOT of sticks @ $15 a pop :scared-eek:

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2017 11:39 am
by Zak Griffin
Grab some 2% or 5% sticks as well, and you can use the different melting points to your advantage.

Re: Bumblebee

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:33 am
by Knackerbag
I didn't get a chance to grab the solder as I was flat out with the kids sport but did make a start while id did a strip run on my first macwhiskey.