Long time coming

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Re: Long time coming

Postby Lockyc » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:16 am

hillzabilly wrote:Ifn ya going for a thumper ,I would only do it to a 80-100lt boiler,effort vs return ,50lt keg is fine for some ,but ifn ya see yourself needing more,the bigger set up will strip and deal with 200lt ferments with fewer runs and more output,with a good thumper adding to that maths,in short get a bigger boiler instead of building wider diameter still.cheers hillzabilly ;-)



Absolutly, so I was going with a 8-10L thumper to expect a 100L boiler (80L charge) any reason not to fab a thumper that big?
If I ever get a boiler that big I could ferment in a 200L plastic drum and do two runs. :happy-partydance:
The runs would remain shortish with the thumper @ around 3-4LPH :think:

In the meantime, the thumper will handle the 40L keg charge easily, but still haven't finished designing the thumper, so that will be ages away.

Not sure where I would get a stainless boiler that big, that still looks good. :think:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby db1979 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:31 am

Lockyc wrote:Not sure where I would get a stainless boiler that big, that still looks good. :think:

I think we're all just expecting you to make one :laughing-rolling: surely we'll see pictures of it tomorrow morning :teasing-tease:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Andrew » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:40 am

db1979 wrote:
Lockyc wrote:Not sure where I would get a stainless boiler that big, that still looks good. :think:

I think we're all just expecting you to make one :laughing-rolling: surely we'll see pictures of it tomorrow morning :teasing-tease:

Sounds like a challenge :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Lockyc » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:59 am

Andrew wrote:
db1979 wrote:
Lockyc wrote:Not sure where I would get a stainless boiler that big, that still looks good. :think:

I think we're all just expecting you to make one :laughing-rolling: surely we'll see pictures of it tomorrow morning :teasing-tease:

Sounds like a challenge :laughing-rolling:



:laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:
I thought about making a square one but no, too much work! :naughty:

Home now, parts are soaking in a citric acid bath, while I sleep.
Will weld the legs/element sockets/drain this afternoon. But I need an electrician to wire the element, so might be a day or two. :angry-banghead:

Have got some captain Morgan in the cupboard, so will have to have a few whilst thinking of a thumper.
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Milky » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:29 pm

All I can say is WOW!! Respect!!

You have done skills and know how to use them!! I've been looking forward to your updates since you started this thread!

I can't wait to see it assembled it's going to look epic!!

Just a small question, are you using a pasagel, or a form of electric brush to clean your SS welds or all hardwork with the wire brush?
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Re: Long time coming

Postby hillzabilly » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:36 pm

I do not see the bits between ya 4inch to 2inch reducer and the PC,did ya go 2 by 90'elbows or a one piece 180. bend,the first option is way more versatile .My thumper holds 10lt but is 20lt beer keg wich is low and wide compared to an 8inch to hold 10lt plus safety margin would be a fair bit taller wich meens your bath is quite deep wich makes getting the downcomer ta work well and maintain its level more difficult .cheers hillzabilly ;-)
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Lockyc » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:54 pm

Milky wrote:All I can say is WOW!! Respect!!

You have done skills and know how to use them!! I've been looking forward to your updates since you started this thread!

I can't wait to see it assembled it's going to look epic!!

Just a small question, are you using a pasagel, or a form of electric brush to clean your SS welds or all hardwork with the wire brush?


Hillzabilly, I went with one piece.

Thankyou milky
The welds are cleaned internally and externally with a pickling gel.
I believe it contains hydrochloric/nitric acid (be wary). :puke-huge:
Any welding sTore should supply you with a “stainless pickling gel”

It’s actually quite easy to weld them if the parts are prepped to fine tolerance and machine is set with good pulse parameters. :handgestures-thumbupleft:

I brushed them with citric acid and will run a thorough citric wash and then a sacrificial wash.
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Lockyc » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:12 pm

Breakthrough :happy-partydance:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Milky » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:33 pm

Great work mate. Looks awesome. Well done!
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Re: Long time coming

Postby The Stig » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:37 pm

Hey Lok, your going to need an extension to bring the parrot down to collection height
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Lockyc » Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:32 am

The Stig wrote:Hey Lok, your going to need an extension to bring the parrot down to collection height



For sure mate, going to have to figure out a few measurements with the packed section removed and thumper added.
Should have got you to send glass seals in that order :angry-banghead:
In the meantime, I’ve got a welding bench that may bring the jars that height.

Tomorrow brings a wash and possibly fill the column and check for leaks, finally got myself a bubbler after 7 years :dance:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby woodduck » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:01 am

Well done mate, looks awesome :clap:

Nothing like running your first bubbler, your gonna love it :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby db1979 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:35 am

Fantastic effort mate :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Make sure you get some nice wide diameter cooling lines, stay away from the braided ones they restrict flow too much.
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Re: Long time coming

Postby dans.brew » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:06 pm

Nice job there Locky! :clap:
You've done a very nice job.

Lockyc wrote:Tomorrow brings a wash and possibly fill the column and check for leaks, finally got myself a bubbler after 7 years :dance:

Good things come to those who wait... so they say anyway! :laughing-rolling:
Building your way up to something pretty nice makes you appreciate it when you finally get there. Have fun running her in.
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Lockyc » Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:27 pm

Update :
I got the elements wired up.

The silicone baking sheets I cut out didn’t work :
1 - they leak :crying-blue:
2 - I folded them over when I bought them to check for fillers and they were all good, upon assembly I stretched them hard and they turned white (fillers added to silicone). You really have to stretch HARD to see. :o
3 - ordered some flat silicone seals off FSD

Ffv wash is on and bubbling slowly.
Probably run it up in a fortnight.
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Lockyc » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:49 pm

Got sick of tightening nuts by hand, so I Fabricated a long socket to go over the booker rod.
Gets driven by an 18v rattle gun.
Should make it 100 times faster :happy-partydance:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Andrew » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:56 pm

Your new seals are at your local post office waiting for you :teasing-neener:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby db1979 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:09 pm

Andrew wrote:Your new seals are at your local post office waiting for you :teasing-neener:

Great service Andrew :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Andrew » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:42 pm

I do my best :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Long time coming

Postby Lockyc » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:06 pm

Andrew wrote:Your new seals are at your local post office waiting for you :teasing-neener:


Thanks buddy :handgestures-thumbupleft:

Grab them when I get back
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