SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

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SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby Dyno » Fri Nov 25, 2016 11:04 am

yup...I used this. I guess not many here would but I wanted to give it a run. ( having the Amylase added for the long chains was the reason) Glad I did. ( at this stage) I'll start off by saying this definitely NOT a turbo.This has chugged along nicely for the last 3 days. Pitched at about 29 degrees. No action till 26 degrees so a bit of a lag but then off she went. I was expecting an eruption but it was pretty steady all the way through.What blew me away was the temp it went to which was from 26 upto 38. Incredible . Smells incredible too The house smells like a fruit bowl. Bananas and Pineapple ....fkn beaudy..!! :D :D

Interested in anyone else experience with the same product.

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Re: SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby hillzabilly » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:06 pm

:text-+1: I added a couple to a 150lt Macrum wash ,and yes it added an extra fruity smell for sure,the amalyse did give a small increase in yeild,with another month on oak I will compare the taste with standard lowans bread yeast Macrum.Early tasteings so far show a very small increase in fruity flavour complexity,but then I donot like strongly flavoured rum and use a 50/50 mix of french and american medium char oak .Price is not cheap either but if ya want to give an axtra flavour and smell profile of fruit, I think useing it for 20% of yeast weight is worth a go,and I do like a little variety now and again but realize flavour is a personal thing. cheers hillzabilly ;-)
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Postby EziTasting » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:21 pm

Hah, good work Dyno!

Keep pushing the envelope! Love your work...
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Re: SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby bluc » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:27 pm

Didn't know molasses had starch for amylse to convert. Guess you learn something new everyday. :-B
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Re: SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby Dyno » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:28 pm

hillzabilly wrote::text-+1: I added a couple to a 150lt Macrum wash ,and yes it added an extra fruity smell for sure,the amalyse did give a small increase in yeild,with another month on oak I will compare the taste with standard lowans bread yeast Macrum.Early tasteings so far show a very small increase in fruity flavour complexity,but then I donot like strongly flavoured rum and use a 50/50 mix of french and american medium char oak .Price is not cheap either but if ya want to give an axtra flavour and smell profile of fruit, I think useing it for 20% of yeast weight is worth a go,and I do like a little variety now and again but realize flavour is a personal thing. cheers hillzabilly ;-)

I feel better now..phew..!!! ..been concentrating on Whiskey this yr so still a rum virgin. If it taste anything like it smells, Im on it like a rat with a new gold tooth...fkn oath. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Postby Dyno » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:29 pm

bluc wrote:Didn't know molasses had starch for amylse to convert. Guess you learn something new everyday. :-B

Im only going off what I read somewhere..coulda had a skin full at the time..dunno.
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Re: SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby bluc » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:36 pm

NUTRITION INFORMATION
Amounts per 1 cup (337g)

Calorie Information
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DVCalories 977 (4091 kJ) 49% From Carbohydrate 974 (4078 kJ) From Fat 2.8 (11.7 kJ) From Protein 0.0 (0.0 kJ) From Alcohol 0.0 (0.0 kJ)

Carbohydrates
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DVTotal Carbohydrate 252 g 84%
Dietary Fiber 0.0 g 0%
Starch ~
Sugars 187 g

Fats & Fatty Acids
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DVTotal Fat 0.3 g 1%
Saturated Fat 0.1 g 0%
Monounsaturated Fat 0.1 g
Polyunsaturated Fat 0.2 g
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Total trans-monoenoic fatty acids ~
Total trans-polyenoic fatty acids ~
Total Omega-3 fatty acids ~
Total Omega-6 fatty acids 168 mg
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Protein & Amino Acids
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DVProtein 0.0 g 0%

Vitamins
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DVVitamin A 0.0 IU 0% Vitamin C 0.0 mg 0% Vitamin D 0.0 IU 0% Vitamin E (Alpha Tocopherol) 0.0 mg 0% Vitamin K 0.0 mcg 0% Thiamin 0.1 mg 9% Riboflavin 0.0 mg 0% Niacin 3.1 mg 16% Vitamin B6 2.3 mg 113% Folate 0.0 mcg 0% Vitamin B12 0.0 mcg 0% Pantothenic Acid 2.7 mg 27% Choline 44.8 mg Betaine ~

Minerals
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DVCalcium 691 mg 69% Iron 15.9 mg 88% Magnesium 816 mg 204% Phosphorus 104 mg 10% Potassium 4933 mg 141% Sodium 125 mg 5% Zinc 1.0 mg 7% Copper 1.6 mg 82% Manganese 5.2 mg 258% Selenium 60.0 mcg 86% Fluoride ~

Sterols
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DVCholesterol 0.0 mg 0% Phytosterols ~

Other
Amounts Per Selected Serving %DVAlcohol 0.0 g Water 73.7 g Ash 11.1 g Caffeine 0.0 mg Theobromine 0.0 mg
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Percent Daily Values (%DV) are for adults or children aged 4 or older, and are based on a 2,000 calorie reference diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower based on your individual needs.

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Re: SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby Dyno » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:40 pm

Lol...whats the short version mate ? :))
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Re: SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby bluc » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:48 pm

Lol cant find any mention of starch in molasses anywhere ..
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Postby Dyno » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:54 pm

Told you I was pissed when I read it.. :laughing-rolling:
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Postby bluc » Fri Nov 25, 2016 2:55 pm

:laughing-rolling:
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Postby hillzabilly » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:09 pm

Sorry peeps I said amylase a mistake on my behalf.It contains amyloglucosidase enzyme for breaking down longer chain sugars (like gluecose and other invert sugars in mollasses) wich is not fermentable by yeast,not the same thing ya use for starch breakdown with grain washs .cheers hillzabilly ;-)
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Postby wynnum1 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 3:19 pm

If you look at white labs WLDRUMAG-1KG Rum Turbo AG-1kg (Distillers Yeast) seems to be the same mixture of yeast nutrient enzyme .
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Re: SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby Dyno » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:41 pm

hillzabilly wrote:Sorry peeps I said amylase a mistake on my behalf.It contains amyloglucosidase enzyme for breaking down longer chain sugars (like gluecose and other invert sugars in mollasses) wich is not fermentable by yeast,not the same thing ya use for starch breakdown with grain washs .cheers hillzabilly ;-)

Im with Hillzy.. :happy-partydance: :happy-partydance:
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Postby coffe addict » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:58 pm

Hey wynnum do you use the white Labs version? If so where do you source it and is it worth the extra coin?
I've only found a few places(lazyhalfarsedlook) selling it and they were in the states and out of stock.
$35 usd plus shipping...
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Postby TasSpirits » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:34 pm

I've added 3 in 1 enzymes to a standard macrum to see if there was a difference, little higher yield, tasted the same, going to do a couple of batches next year using bakers yeast and beer yeast to try get a fruitier flavour. :think:
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Postby coffe addict » Fri Nov 25, 2016 8:58 pm

Tas which yeast and are you going to try to grow them up or just add some packets? My rum is getting good but without the bad heads it lacks in the lighter fruitier notes.
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Postby TasSpirits » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:43 pm

coffe addict wrote:Tas which yeast and are you going to try to grow them up or just add some packets? My rum is getting good but without the bad heads it lacks in the lighter fruitier notes.

Im going to try safale us04, Danstar windsor, White labs WLP051 also some T58 for a pepper and spice flavour. I have found using well aged dunder seems to give a rummier and fruitier profile to the strip :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: SS Rum Yeast...So have I sinned ????

Postby coffe addict » Fri Nov 25, 2016 10:09 pm

Ok I'm in the process of aging some dunder, the lighter notes are what's missing. Hope you post your yeast results. Hoping in the new year work settles so I can experiment some more.
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Postby wynnum1 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:29 am

coffe addict wrote:Hey wynnum do you use the white Labs version? If so where do you source it and is it worth the extra coin?
I've only found a few places(lazyhalfarsedlook) selling it and they were in the states and out of stock.
$35 usd plus shipping...

No have not used white Labs version but it look so similar or same and if you want white labs go to there web site and 'store near you ' international and will come up with 3 pages of suppliers in Australia .
Some of the sellers do special or bulk buys of yeast .
The rum yeast seems to be a turbo and has urea which i think they banned and then found out the reason they banned was crap not sure about urea in Australia now.
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