Think my yeasties are sad

Yeast talk, turbo, bakers and specialised strains

Think my yeasties are sad

Postby greenguy » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:33 pm

Well weird but 7 days into 3rd gen and the wash is still sweet as hell
The ph is low and the yeast is bubbling slowly
What u guys reckoning have tried to adjust the ph but its hard in a 200ltr fermenter to get it right will pay more attention to adjust when adding back slop next time

But it is 200litres of wash and a bit of a waste think ill right this one off as a fuck up and start a new gen
greenguy
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:23 pm
Location: Sheep Country
equipment: Red neck pot still on gas-sooon to be retired
FSD 4' SSG 2x2400 watt FSD elements soon to be

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby Apple-O-Me-Eye » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:49 pm

Why not dissolve 4 tbsp of citric acid in a cup of water and stir it in? Maybe some more nutrient?
Apple-O-Me-Eye
 
Posts: 165
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 8:25 am
Location: Brisbane
equipment: I run a pot still with liebeg condenser, 90deg line arm on a gas poweredkeg boiler

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby Dominator » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:51 pm

Have you tried adding some nutrients? What exactly is your ph? What type of wash is it? I would be avoiding turfing 200L of wash if I could.
Dominator
 
Posts: 1102
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:45 am
Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
equipment: 2" Pot Still/Hybrid
4" Perf Plate Bubbler
50L Keg boiler with 2 x 2400w elements

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby greenguy » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:53 pm

Have added some nutes in there ill just fiddle with it untill it finishes if it does
Good time for me to take some notes i think
Cheers
Last edited by greenguy on Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.
greenguy
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:23 pm
Location: Sheep Country
equipment: Red neck pot still on gas-sooon to be retired
FSD 4' SSG 2x2400 watt FSD elements soon to be

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby Dominator » Tue Aug 20, 2013 9:53 pm

Apple-O-Me-Eye wrote:Why not dissolve 4 tbsp of citric acid in a cup of water and stir it in? Maybe some more nutrient?



That's not going to help a low ph... Citric acid will make it lower.
Dominator
 
Posts: 1102
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:45 am
Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
equipment: 2" Pot Still/Hybrid
4" Perf Plate Bubbler
50L Keg boiler with 2 x 2400w elements

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby dogbreath vodka » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:00 pm

Maybe break it down into smaller quantities and experiment with them.
Too much sugar?
Not enough nutrient
Etc
If you intend wasting it .... why not experiment and see what could be done?



DBV
dogbreath vodka
 
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:10 pm
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
equipment: "Steampunk 2 - 6" Bubble cap
"Jimmy" the 4" Carter head

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby greenguy » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:03 pm

To be honest i don't normally add bugger all in the way of nutes in my washs but haven't had to
But think i will in the future

It is 200litres of 3rd gen ujssm just 25kg sugar and 25odd litres of backslop from last strip
Ec 1118 is the yeast
greenguy
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:23 pm
Location: Sheep Country
equipment: Red neck pot still on gas-sooon to be retired
FSD 4' SSG 2x2400 watt FSD elements soon to be

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby dogbreath vodka » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:11 pm

Temperature?
dogbreath vodka
 
Posts: 1391
Joined: Sun Jan 15, 2012 5:10 pm
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow
equipment: "Steampunk 2 - 6" Bubble cap
"Jimmy" the 4" Carter head

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby greenguy » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:20 pm

Yea temp is proberly paying its toll its sitting around 18c pritty cold atm here in nz
Has a electric blanket the dogs blanket(clean) and some other sheets on it
Will check temp in the morning but mainly sitting around 18-20c last few at same temp finished in 5 -6days
Ph is 3.5 so lowish
May b i should kick the wifey out of bed and wack the fermenter in there
greenguy
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:23 pm
Location: Sheep Country
equipment: Red neck pot still on gas-sooon to be retired
FSD 4' SSG 2x2400 watt FSD elements soon to be

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby crow » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:37 pm

That's not going to help a low ph... Citric acid will make it lower

One citrus acid is a buffer acid so it will help a little but given your low pH yes definitely put an alkaline in and raise the temp some how either a drum or box over it with a light in there or a spare lecky blanket or go get an Aquarium heater
crow
 
Posts: 2359
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:44 am
Location: Central Highlands Victoria
equipment: ultra pure reflux still and a 4" 4 plate MacStill built copper bubble cap column and a 500mm scoria packed rectifying module

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby greenguy » Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:45 pm

Ill go get a aquarium heater for it tomorrow what would u suggest to get the ph up
I tried some stuff from the Hbs shop but did nothing
Cheers again guys
greenguy
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:23 pm
Location: Sheep Country
equipment: Red neck pot still on gas-sooon to be retired
FSD 4' SSG 2x2400 watt FSD elements soon to be

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby crow » Tue Aug 20, 2013 11:26 pm

some use bicarb, that works. I use hydrated lime coz I'm RAF but it works too :laughing-rolling: . yep a lot of guys cut the plug off , drill a small hole in the fermenter lid and feed the cord thought sealing it with silicon and re-attaching another plug. Others cut a big enough hole for the plug and re-seal with a slightly bigger plate and some don't give two fucks about sealing :roll:
crow
 
Posts: 2359
Joined: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:44 am
Location: Central Highlands Victoria
equipment: ultra pure reflux still and a 4" 4 plate MacStill built copper bubble cap column and a 500mm scoria packed rectifying module

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby greenguy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:04 am

Yea i tried bicarbonate but dident have much affect
greenguy
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:23 pm
Location: Sheep Country
equipment: Red neck pot still on gas-sooon to be retired
FSD 4' SSG 2x2400 watt FSD elements soon to be

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby Sam. » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:02 am

Should still be action at 3.5 can you hear or see any fermentation signs?
Sam.
Site Admin
 
Posts: 10277
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:19 pm
Location: South Oz Straya
equipment: Original FSD 5 plate 4 inch modular bubbler SSG with hand crafted plates and parrot by Mac.
18 Gal boiler.
2 x 2400W elements and power controller.
.

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby Yummyrum » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:12 am

Was your backset cool before you poured it in ? Didn't accidentally cook the yeast ?

You could get a paint stirrer on a electric drill and aerate the shit out of it , and Pitch more yeast if that doesn't help
Yummyrum
 
Posts: 1897
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 3:19 pm
Location: Near Coffs
equipment: Did use Still Spirits Reflux
Now use 50l Keg with Pot head for Rum and Neutral stripping runs on gas .
LM/VM head with 1m packed 2" on Still Spirits boiler for Neutrals.

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby greenguy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:19 am

Got a paint stirrer that i use
Yea backslop was around 25c there is still some fermenting going on it is bubbling threw the air lock just mega mild
Might go pitch some more yeast and c if that helps
greenguy
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:23 pm
Location: Sheep Country
equipment: Red neck pot still on gas-sooon to be retired
FSD 4' SSG 2x2400 watt FSD elements soon to be

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby Sam. » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:22 am

Reckon you need to heat it up :handgestures-thumbupleft:
Sam.
Site Admin
 
Posts: 10277
Joined: Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:19 pm
Location: South Oz Straya
equipment: Original FSD 5 plate 4 inch modular bubbler SSG with hand crafted plates and parrot by Mac.
18 Gal boiler.
2 x 2400W elements and power controller.
.

Think my yeasties are sad

Postby BackyardBrewer » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:34 am

Also a quick rock of the fermenter to just get some yeast back into suspension often wakes them up too.

Very common for home brewers to be out shaking the fermenters if the wash stalls. Careful tho - if it isn't ph and all the yeast needs is a nudge you might end up with foaming wash everywhere if the fermenter is too full.
BackyardBrewer
Site Donor
 
Posts: 1824
Joined: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:18 pm
Location: South Aussie
equipment: Solid Copper Love Machine (Plated column bubbler), hand made with love by a forum member
50L keg boiler with 2 x 2400w elements
PURE distilling Reflux still + a tonne of homebrew gear amassed over 10 years of brewing.

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby Dominator » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:40 am

BackyardBrewer wrote:Also a quick rock of the fermenter to just get some yeast back into suspension often wakes them up too.

Very common for home brewers to be out shaking the fermenters if the wash stalls. Careful tho - if it isn't ph and all the yeast needs is a nudge you might end up with foaming wash everywhere if the fermenter is too full.



Haha, I can just see it... Woohoo, its ALIVE! Oh shit, shit, shhhiiiiiitttttt! Righto, where's that bloody mop. :crying-blue:
Dominator
 
Posts: 1102
Joined: Fri Apr 26, 2013 10:45 am
Location: Sunshine Coast QLD
equipment: 2" Pot Still/Hybrid
4" Perf Plate Bubbler
50L Keg boiler with 2 x 2400w elements

Re: Think my yeasties are sad

Postby greenguy » Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:21 am

:laughing-rolling:
Hope not will rock it tonight may b play some Metallica to it might wake em up :music-deathmetal:
greenguy
 
Posts: 262
Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:23 pm
Location: Sheep Country
equipment: Red neck pot still on gas-sooon to be retired
FSD 4' SSG 2x2400 watt FSD elements soon to be

Next

Return to Yeast



Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests

x