Bakers vs Ec1118 for colder temps

[Stilldrinking]

Heyas,
I've been using lowans bakers yeast for about a year with great success.
Never had one stall and I've had it ferment in temperatures less than ideal.
I'm surprised how well it handles the heat.

I'm completey out of yeast and given its coming into winter (lower temp) I was wondering if I should use ec1118 for the winter months.

I usually start my washes (tpw) outside and bring indoors after a few days. (Odour control)
I know it's not ideal to not control temp but it's worked so far.

To be honest I'm lazy, If or when I get a wash fail I'll get a heater but probably not before.
I just wrap a car sunshade around the fermentor.

My approach is perhaps to simplistic. Tpw with bakers yeast for good neutral. One run on a reflux with tight cuts.
It works great so I've never looked to change it

It will be getting to about 10c outside now so I'm wondering which yeast is best for low ferment tempratures.

Thanks for any input.

[WTDist]

i havent heard of a yeast likeing 10 degrees. I have mine inside from the start. i have a hose going from the bubble air lock to outside so the smell doesnt go inside. the 10mm hose fits behind my garage door nicely and no creature will go up it because they will choke from no oxygen :handgestures-thumbupleft: i also have no air in my lock because i dont need it

[Stilldrinking]

Good tip mate.
I'll give it a try, esp for the first few days when it' smells it's worst and is bubbling crazy.
Than I'll put the air lock back in. I'll run the tried and true lowans yeast again.

Ive noticed if I leave the washes sit for along time (over 4weeks) they gotta have a good air lock or the quality drops a little.
Or Rather I need to cut it harsher. It's not a lot but it noticeable.
I imagine as long as it's fermentling and bubbling away it makes Enuff gas pressure to keep the air out.

[WTDist]

I still have the air lock in, i have the hose taped to the top. its a thinner garden hose. 10 mm. I wont have these ones sitting for too long when they are done but i would put water in the airlock near the end if i was to have them sit for a while. the reason i haven't got water in the airlock at the moment is i wanted to reduce the bubbling noise

[Stilldrinking]

Just an update.

I ended up putting 2x 25L washes on with some wine yeast (very similar to ec1118)

Basically 2 x WPOSW

Both identical washes except one I added 50grams of tomato paste to one.

Interestingly:
The one with tomato paste took off a lot faster and happily bubbled away.
The one with out tomato paste was going so so slow. (I've been told WPOSW really need bakers yeast to work well so I'm not surprised)

After about 5days I added 50grams of tomato paste to the slow one and in took off like a rocket in no time.

The washes smell, look and taste amazingly clean.
For me, I will experiment with wine yeast over the cooler the months. They can sit inside because they smell great and just happen to be at there ideal temp. Very happy with how clean they are.
I'll use bakers yeast in the summer.

[ekul]

There are yeasts that like lower temperatures, they are lager yeasts though and i dont know how they would go in a sugar wash, worth a try though if you want to ferment at those temps.

The main issue i can think of is that it will throw a bit of sulfur.

[tipsy]

they are lager yeasts though and i dont know how they would go in a sugar wash

They'd go great. Nothing as clean as a lager yeast......take longer to ferment out though.

[Andy]

Interestingly:
The one with tomato paste took off a lot faster and happily bubbled away.
The one with out tomato paste was going so so slow. (I've been told WPOSW really need bakers yeast to work well so I'm not surprised)

no surprising- tomato past has more nutrients than DAP and gypsum can provide.

They'd go great. Nothing as clean as a lager yeast......take longer to ferment out though.

takes way way longer to ferment, but if you are providing heat and are happy to wait, these are definitely the way to go!

[mattcoffs]

I suppose you could try a lager beer yeast, as they work at low temps but not sure what kind of ABV they'll cope with...

**As it turns out i didn't read the thread and this was mentioned much earlier... hah