Using Soft Solder Only

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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby CaptainRedBeard » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:07 am

WTDist wrote:5 bottles? im only 1/4 - 1/3 through my second map can and i expect i will need at least one more. You do have a very large PC that i bet took a bit. then again i still need to make a whole new PC so maybe i might need 2 more cans. I found bunnings fit the hot devil map ones and are cheaper but for a few $$ ill just stick to the same brand


I think I went through so many due to my Torch issues. Plus I'm not a conservative type of person, left the torch running while I Flux the next solder sorta thing. Probably could have done it all more efficiently, but it gets the job done.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby woodduck » Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:01 pm

I use something like this

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170387305930

It hooks straight onto a 4kg gas bottle and I haven't had to refill mine yet. It's handled all soft soldering I've done and will hard solder the rings for easy flanges.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Zak Griffin » Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:18 pm

Pretty sure I've got one of them laying around, woody, I'll grab it tomorrow. Easy!
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Dig Brinker » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:47 pm

I used a trade flame kit, the yellow bottle TF ultra, mapp replacement. Only used one and a half bottles on the total build, I think Captain Redbeard might be sniffing his :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby CaptainRedBeard » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:23 pm

Dig Brinker wrote:I used a trade flame kit, the yellow bottle TF ultra, mapp replacement. Only used one and a half bottles on the total build, I think Captain Redbeard might be sniffing his :laughing-rolling:

:teasing-tease:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Bundaboy » Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:39 pm

This LPG based brazing system would quickly pay for itself if you a doing a fair amount of brazing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptG90FfwYeM

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/like/1117374 ... 107&chn=ps
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby WTDist » Sat Jul 02, 2016 4:35 pm

woodduck wrote:I use something like this

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/170387305930

It hooks straight onto a 4kg gas bottle and I haven't had to refill mine yet. It's handled all soft soldering I've done and will hard solder the rings for easy flanges.

Im looking at this on ebay. Looks limilar to the one in your post but with a regulator and stuff as i will use 8.5kg or something.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Propane-Buta ... G6AXY9lFwg

You mention it will braze rings, do you think it would have enough heat for a 4" blockhead tee to be brazed?

Going to cost nearly $100 to buy a blockhead after shipping so maybe i should buy the right tools to do it myself and have the tool for life

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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby scythe » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:38 pm

That is a pretty good price actually
It should braze as propane gets to >1900*C when burnt in regular air atmosphere and copper melts at about 2000*C, its really all about flame size, a 25mm burner should get the job done.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby woodduck » Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:55 pm

Not sure, I've never bothered hard soldering anything but rings with it. My first thoughts would be no as ot takes a while to heat up those small rings. I have seen blokes pre heat with a ring burner to get the heat up.

You could just go get your local plumber to hard solder it up.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Kenster » Sat Jul 02, 2016 10:06 pm

Mac... bit late to ask, but what flux do u use for the staino to copper... i have tried a couple of 'recommended' (from plumbing supply joints) and they are shit.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby bluess57 » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:01 pm

Kenster wrote:Mac... bit late to ask, but what flux do u use for the staino to copper... i have tried a couple of 'recommended' (from plumbing supply joints) and they are shit.

Ezi-weld 801 is what you want
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Flowerpot » Mon Oct 10, 2016 2:12 pm

bluess57 wrote:
Kenster wrote:Mac... bit late to ask, but what flux do u use for the staino to copper... i have tried a couple of 'recommended' (from plumbing supply joints) and they are shit.

Ezi-weld 801 is what you want



GODDAMMIT :angry-banghead:

I've been struggling wasting heaps of solder and heaps of time, using a variety of fluxes and had everything on stainless come out crap. :crying-blue:

Bought a bottle of ezi weld 801..... perfect solder joint in 2 minutes tops. :happy-partydance: Wish I'd seen this sooner.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Dig Brinker » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:10 pm

Which is why we say read, read and read some more... all the info is here :-B
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Zak Griffin » Mon Oct 10, 2016 10:17 pm

Also don't be afraid to ask questions if you can't find the answers you're looking for ;-)
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Flowerpot » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:07 pm

Zak Griffin wrote:Also don't be afraid to ask questions if you can't find the answers you're looking for ;-)


Yeah, noted, I keep forgetting this is not the HD forums.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Zak Griffin » Tue Oct 11, 2016 6:55 pm

:laughing-rolling:

We're not here to spoon feed but I'd rather see builds developing and runs happening than having everyone scared to ask a question :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby rumdidlydum » Tue Oct 11, 2016 7:05 pm

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