Using Soft Solder Only

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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby googe » Thu Oct 25, 2012 12:35 pm

Thanks mate, was just about to come on here and say it's all good I worked it out :doh: . I just
soldered it and cooled it down then brushed the open spot with flux and put heat straight onto it and let the flux drawn the solder in. Worked well 3 times :handgestures-thumbupleft: . I guess it's much the same as welding a big gap, build the gap up till it's full.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Lowndsey » Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:13 pm

McStill wrote:The bernzo stuff is shit hot for copper to copper but no good for SS to copper, you really need a highly acidic flux for SS ti CU joints.

I use ezi weld 801.... might want to correct your post so as not to confuse anyone, but you only got 15 minutes to correct it ;-)

I read somewhere about painting the stainless with a coat of hydrocloric acid before soldering with a regular flux......Anyone tried mixing a small amount of hydrocloric acid with this Bernzomatic flux? Got a shitload of hydrocloric acid left over from a previous DIY job and plenty of that bernzo flux. Might give it a test before I spend 10 bucks on some flux i will probably only use once.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Goldie » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:12 am

I have soldered SS to copper with benzo flux and eziweld. I found the eziweld a lil easier but the main thing for me seemed to be the heat, get that right and the solder will flow. Just don't rush it and take your time and build up the heat.
I haven't used acid so can't comment but my joins without it have worked fine.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby unsub » Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:58 am

Yep I found the eziweld stuff better than the bernzo stuff. The bernzo stuff melts pretty quickly and produces a heap of smoke where as the eziweld stays solid for longer and does not produce a lot of fumes.
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby bt1 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:13 pm

You bastards!

Hiding this ezi-weld secret...

This ezi-weld and copper to stainless is the easiest bit of soldering I've ever done... quick as well.
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simple really!
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Camikaze » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:47 pm

Sweet join BT. Are those stackable funnels youre making?

Nice. :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby MacStill » Sun Oct 28, 2012 4:58 pm

IMHO it is the "only" flux for SS to copper :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby bt1 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:43 am

I wished I'd tried this earlier, as it's that easy and join is very smooth,clean and strong I would have altered design of new still to get some SS in for effect...

Thanks Mc this flux is true gem.

Cam they stack together, wasn't a consideration when making em...more about, flask, bottle and keg size.

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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby googe » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:54 pm

I hope you don't mind me stealing this funnel idea bt1?.


I just thought of a new saying too, "If there's solder at your feet, you've got to much heat "
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Kimbo » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:32 am

googe wrote:I just thought of a new saying too, "If there's solder at your feet, you've got to much heat "

Well said Googe :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling: :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby vooharmy » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:02 pm

Anyone on the gold coast found this ezi weld 801? Bunnings have 602 and when you ring up plumbing shops they just have "flux". Only they solders to go and they are all SS. =)

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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby bt1 » Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:48 pm

got mine from Tradelink plumbing supplies

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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Linny » Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:57 pm

what is this ezi-weld ???/ does 801 like paste for ss to copper and 602 for copper to copper ???

can it be lite with a butane burner ??? because im looking at a different option to MAP gas torch
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Kimbo » Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:57 pm

Ezi weld is a brand that makes flux, the 602 type is your normal plumbing type, the 801 is slightly more acidic.
And yes, you can do it with butane :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby vooharmy » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:22 pm

So what im after is 801 brand doesnt matter?

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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Kimbo » Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:30 pm

801 is ezi-weld's product, if you're after an equivalent,I'm not sure about other brands.
You will have to ask for a more acidic flux ;-)
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Linny » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:17 pm

So since its a flux do you still have to use a silver rod ??? or is this a paste that melts/flows in ?
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Kimbo » Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:41 pm

the flux needs to be applied to both surfaces which are being soldered.
It acts as a cleaner of sorts and helps the solder to flow nice and stick.
when i say 'solder' i mean the stuff you get on a roll, not a stick ;-)
to make it easy, get one of thesefrom bunnings :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby Linny » Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:13 am

I live 500m from masters lol must be destiny :handgestures-thumbupleft:
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Re: Using Soft Solder Only

Postby brianp » Tue Nov 13, 2012 3:36 pm

Hi. The local Lead light bloke just sold me a bottle of EziWeld 801. He does not use it as is is not the best for his lead work. Picked up the bottle from him but there is no label on it. He brought it some time ago. Do I just try it? And if it works just use it or do I not take the health risk? He sold it to me for $5.00 for the 500ml bottle. Cheers Brian
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